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I needed to see this today (Original Post) irisblue Nov 2022 OP
Great info! SheltieLover Nov 2022 #1
Well, there is a part of me OldBaldy1701E Nov 2022 #2
The Second Agreement of Don Miguel Ruiz is a useful reminder nuxvomica Nov 2022 #3
Along with the other three judesedit Nov 2022 #5
I'd include "Be careful what you promise" n/t Backseat Driver Nov 2022 #13
Somewhat snarky, but you left out "my body" Ferrets are Cool Nov 2022 #4
This is useful. Thanks! Mousetoescamper Nov 2022 #6
I like this... but I think a lot of pain comes from not being able to control thoughts adequately, chia Nov 2022 #7
I think a lot of us worry about BlueSky3 Nov 2022 #8
Thanks! This is very important. And I want to add that it's also highplainsdem Nov 2022 #9
+ 1 rubbersole Nov 2022 #11
Excellent! niyad Nov 2022 #10
I need this chart on a card in my pocket and wallet. Backseat Driver Nov 2022 #12

OldBaldy1701E

(6,480 posts)
2. Well, there is a part of me
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 08:02 AM
Nov 2022

That feels that if I do not have any control over the outcome of my efforts, then why put forth any effort? I am thinking that this is more a reference to the effect those efforts have on others. But, if I build a sturdy house, It had better be a sturdy house when I am done.

nuxvomica

(12,934 posts)
3. The Second Agreement of Don Miguel Ruiz is a useful reminder
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 08:13 AM
Nov 2022

The Second Agreement – DON’T TAKE ANYTHING PERSONALLY

Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.
https://www.sunshinecoasthealthcentre.ca/the-5-agreements-by-don-miguel-ruiz/

It's not always doable but I try to keep it in mind, especially the part about everyone living in their own dream.

judesedit

(4,513 posts)
5. Along with the other three
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 08:24 AM
Nov 2022

Always do your best
Never assume
Don't lie to yourself or others

Awesome book, "The Four Agreements". Easy reading, too.

Thanks for bringing that up. 👍

chia

(2,393 posts)
7. I like this... but I think a lot of pain comes from not being able to control thoughts adequately,
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:06 AM
Nov 2022

so how much are our thoughts actually are in our control?

BlueSky3

(711 posts)
8. I think a lot of us worry about
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:13 AM
Nov 2022

things we can’t control. I have a friend who is an intelligent woman who has untreated high blood pressure. Makes no sense, but she’ll go to a doctor when she’s good and ready — or when she ends up in the ER.

highplainsdem

(52,640 posts)
9. Thanks! This is very important. And I want to add that it's also
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:29 AM
Nov 2022

important to focus as much as possible on what we can be grateful for, rather than situations that upset us and are outside our control.

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mental health gratitude

With the political theme of this forum, we're inevitably focused a lot on situtaions we can't control, or might be able to control only with a massive and/or long-term effort.

But we need to balance that focus, and frustration, with as much focus as possible on the things we can be grateful for, whether the bigger things or what's enjoyable as a distraction (funny tweets and cartoons, for instance, or music, or cat memes, or whatever helps).

Backseat Driver

(4,636 posts)
12. I need this chart on a card in my pocket and wallet.
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 10:33 AM
Nov 2022

My nature is to "help" and I struggle w/boundaries and co-dependency issues, especially w/family members, and what part I play in setting up my own disasters with relationships at the request or under the control of "others" who don't seem to ever worry about the consequences down the road versus "right now" because me, the helper, is always around. It's not always clear who needs to clean up their own messes and beliefs about who and what they are. I'm also of an age now where my dreams no longer matter?

Good thing I try to practice gratitude for that which is still good -- food, shelter, relative good health, a nearby family, things that bring joy, a safe time and place to cry, and a working computer and phone with which to communicate with friends, some of whom I've never met.

Happy Thanksgiving, irisblue, and all others at DU! I wish you all blessings of abundance as you celebrate this national holiday.

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