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LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 08:54 PM Dec 2023

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We very much need you here. onecaliberal Dec 2023 #1
Thank you so much. Having a hard time feeling safe at this point. LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #3
Understandable. onecaliberal Dec 2023 #8
Thank you. It's scary but I need to let it out. LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #10
Absolutely. You need to be heard and you deserve to be heard. onecaliberal Dec 2023 #12
Oh no, dear Liberal Loner. What awful knowledge. femmedem Dec 2023 #2
Thank you. I wrote them all and said, I am sorry for making all of you hate me this badly. I asked the trolls LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #4
They have also done things like ask me for my artwork, and when I send it, ghost me and they don't LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #5
And then I have this cancer thing going on at the same time. It just feels like a LOT right now. LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #6
It is a lot. Either one would be a lot for anyone, let alone both at once. femmedem Dec 2023 #19
Thank you. LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #23
Sounds like they could be jealous of your talent Walleye Dec 2023 #17
I highly doubt that, but thanks. LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #24
It sounds like one of those family members has a cluster b personality disorder! rainy Dec 2023 #7
Thank you so much! Not a therapist myself but have strongly suspected malignant narcissism, LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #9
One of the good things about being in the middle of cancer treatment is, I might just be able LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #11
So very sorry you are dealing with all of this Quakerfriend Dec 2023 #16
Thank you so much. I'm sorry you had breast cancer too. LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #25
I wish you the very best outcome with cancer. rainy Dec 2023 #13
Thank you so very much! I'm glad you got to a good place after all that harm you went through... LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #14
Just purchased this on Kindle. Really hoping it gives me something to hold on to. LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #15
Please come here and vent anytime makes you feel better. That's what we are here for Walleye Dec 2023 #18
Are you in a physically safe space, away from your tormentors? hunter Dec 2023 #20
Yes. But even DU is not safe for me, my tormentors are here. LiberalLoner Dec 2023 #22
... flying rabbit Dec 2023 #21

onecaliberal

(36,203 posts)
1. We very much need you here.
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 08:59 PM
Dec 2023

I’m so sorry these people were so horrible. So many here that truly care.

LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
3. Thank you so much. Having a hard time feeling safe at this point.
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:05 PM
Dec 2023

onecaliberal

(36,203 posts)
8. Understandable.
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:16 PM
Dec 2023

Do all you can to make yourself feel as safe as you can. Being here and talking about it is very good.

LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
10. Thank you. It's scary but I need to let it out.
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:21 PM
Dec 2023

onecaliberal

(36,203 posts)
12. Absolutely. You need to be heard and you deserve to be heard.
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:29 PM
Dec 2023

femmedem

(8,449 posts)
2. Oh no, dear Liberal Loner. What awful knowledge.
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:02 PM
Dec 2023

What awful people they are.

Please, please know: They are awful. Not you. Them. The only thing this says about you is that you are incredibly strong to have resisted that pressure and to have survived.

LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
4. Thank you. I wrote them all and said, I am sorry for making all of you hate me this badly. I asked the trolls
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:07 PM
Dec 2023

Over and over again why they were doing this to me. Never got an answer.

I stopped posting on any social media and don’t post here much anymore either. I’ve had his trolls DM me even here to let me know I am being watched, and it’s overwhelming.

LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
5. They have also done things like ask me for my artwork, and when I send it, ghost me and they don't
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:12 PM
Dec 2023

Bother to tell me they received it…stop talking to me after I send art that took me hours to create. For free.

Thats happened to me a few times, and I no longer feel safe posting my art anywhere because of that.

It’s a small, petty thing, but it’s a good example of the kind of trolling that has been done to me.

Why? Dunno, they won’t tell me why.

The only conclusion I can come to is, they all hate me, family of origin included, and want me dead.

LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
6. And then I have this cancer thing going on at the same time. It just feels like a LOT right now.
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:13 PM
Dec 2023

femmedem

(8,449 posts)
19. It is a lot. Either one would be a lot for anyone, let alone both at once.
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 10:14 PM
Dec 2023

And I hate that this is causing you to feel unsafe sharing your beautiful artwork on DU.

LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
23. Thank you.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 05:12 AM
Dec 2023

Walleye

(35,991 posts)
17. Sounds like they could be jealous of your talent
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 10:08 PM
Dec 2023

LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
24. I highly doubt that, but thanks.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 05:13 AM
Dec 2023

rainy

(6,225 posts)
7. It sounds like one of those family members has a cluster b personality disorder!
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:14 PM
Dec 2023

When I found out after much abuse that my sister has BPD it saved my life because I had an explanation for all the hatred and effort to turn my family against me. Those “follow the leader” people are called flying monkeys. Walk away and don’t look back then get therapy!!!

LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
9. Thank you so much! Not a therapist myself but have strongly suspected malignant narcissism,
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:20 PM
Dec 2023

And believe me, Trump is hugely triggering to me. The one person I know to be the ringleader in my family is absolutely NPD, malignant narcissist, and her grown kids are absolutely her flying monkeys. The rest of the family seems to be on her side as well. Which is almost understandable because I got away from my family of origin early and stayed very much at arms length, while she stayed living in the area and heavily involved.

I’ve had periods of time, years, I have gone no contact but guilt pulls me back in. Time to go no contact again and stay that way this time.

All while I am in the middle of treatment for breast cancer.

I’m barely hanging on right now.

LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
11. One of the good things about being in the middle of cancer treatment is, I might just be able
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:28 PM
Dec 2023

To get insurance to pay for some therapy sessions for me. It would be nice.

Going no contact with all of them is a start, of course, but it’s also a painful step. Can’t help but feel sad and angry about all of it. Those are the feelings I am wrestling with now.

Quakerfriend

(5,659 posts)
16. So very sorry you are dealing with all of this
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 10:02 PM
Dec 2023

right now LL.

They are just weak & cowardly.
Somehow cowards always direct their cruelty toward those who are most caring and kind.
You should cut off ties, at least until you feel stronger and are well again. I know this must be very painful for you.

I had breast cancer & it looked quite bleak for awhile but, I survived- and that was 25 years ago.
I felt very emotionally fragile at the time.

Please, push all of their negativity aside and go forward with only love in your heart & love for yourself. You are a DUer and we are all here for you!!

Try to stay strong & please, keep us posted as to how you are doing. ❣️

LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
25. Thank you so much. I'm sorry you had breast cancer too.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 05:15 AM
Dec 2023

I hope you never get a recurrence.

Yeah, I will have to go no contact with all of them, there is really no other option for me at this point.

Thank you.

rainy

(6,225 posts)
13. I wish you the very best outcome with cancer.
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:43 PM
Dec 2023

I read so many books and joined forums on BPD and that saved me. Once I went no contact with my sibling I made new friends and I grew more confident and started having fun. As if an anchor was cut from my body I rose to the top. Happier but it took over three years after the discard and hatred to get to a good place. Her own son told me he left her when he was in elementary school because “she is toxic”. Walk away, read The Places that Scare You by Pema.

I’ve found that Pema Chodron’s books bring me much peace of mind and heart right now. The Buddhist philosophy is comforting

LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
14. Thank you so very much! I'm glad you got to a good place after all that harm you went through...
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:52 PM
Dec 2023

Feels like a war being waged against you, situations like that.

Right now I’m just hiding in a cave, except for this post because I really needed to vent.

But I plan on living in a cave for quite awhile. Just wanting to feel safe.

I will read Pemba Chodron’s books, thank you for the recommendation and thank you for wishing me well in my cancer journey!

LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
15. Just purchased this on Kindle. Really hoping it gives me something to hold on to.
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 09:55 PM
Dec 2023

When Things Fall Apart: Heart Advice for Difficult Times

Walleye

(35,991 posts)
18. Please come here and vent anytime makes you feel better. That's what we are here for
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 10:10 PM
Dec 2023

hunter

(39,004 posts)
20. Are you in a physically safe space, away from your tormentors?
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 10:23 PM
Dec 2023

I hope this is a safe place.


LiberalLoner

(10,209 posts)
22. Yes. But even DU is not safe for me, my tormentors are here.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 05:08 AM
Dec 2023

flying rabbit

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21. ...
Wed Dec 13, 2023, 10:33 PM
Dec 2023
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