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steve2470

(37,468 posts)
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 09:54 PM Aug 2017

Mental Health Support Group: got good news today

I saw my new shrink today, and it went extremely well. He was kind, very thorough, and seemed to get me right away. All my anxieties melted away.

The REALLY good news is this: he and I agreed that I probably have Atypical Depression, instead of the classic melancholic variety. So, it may be that my very worst symptom ("thin skin" that we've discussed here) very well may have a biological basis in my brain, and not as much due to environmental factors. He said as soon as I mentioned that, that he suspected it.

What are the symptoms of atypical depression?

The main characteristic of atypical depression that distinguishes it from melancholic depression is mood reactivity. In other words, the person with atypical depression will see his or her mood improve if something positive happens. In melancholic depression, positive changes will seldom bring on a change in mood. In addition, diagnostic criteria call for at least two of the following symptoms to accompany the mood reactivity:

Sleeping too much (hypersomnia)

Increased appetite or weight gain

Having a more intense reaction or increased sensitivity to rejection, resulting in problems with social and work relationships

Having a feeling of being weighed down, paralyzed, or "leaden"


http://www.webmd.com/depression/guide/atypical-depression#1-2

The bolded part about rejection sensitivity is what I call "thin skin", in my slang.

We discussed *possibly* using an MAO inhibitor instead of my current meds in the future, and discussed the stringent diet that has to be followed. Apparently MAO inhibitors, while from the 1950's and requiring the stringent diet, impact dopamine, serotonin and norepinephrine.

Stringent diet for MAO inhibitors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_inhibitor#Hypertensive_crisis_.26_tyramine

and:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyramine#Occurrence

Maybe I'll try an MAO inhibitor. I'll talk to him about it. Best wishes to all of you!


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Mental Health Support Group: got good news today (Original Post) steve2470 Aug 2017 OP
Good to hear, steve, elleng Aug 2017 #1
Wow, that's really great news, Steve! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2017 #2
thanks Peggy steve2470 Aug 2017 #6
good for you Steve! irisblue Aug 2017 #3
I notice you bolded one issue JayhawkSD Aug 2017 #4
it's the worst steve2470 Sep 2017 #7
Taking MAO inhibitors is so complex. I do not know of anyone who has tried them due to so BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #5

elleng

(136,595 posts)
1. Good to hear, steve,
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 09:58 PM
Aug 2017

especially for your immediate positive reaction.

The particulars are interesting too, even for me a non-medical person.

CaliforniaPeggy

(152,302 posts)
2. Wow, that's really great news, Steve!
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 09:59 PM
Aug 2017

I am so happy for you! I wonder just how many of us are walking around with something like this.

I have always been "thin-skinned." And my mood changes depending on what is said to me. I've never needed medication but this sure describes me.

When I'm around supportive folks, I feel good, validated. And when I'm around people who don't like me and who tend to be rude, I feel down.

Hmm.

All my best wishes for continued improvement and enlightenment for you!

steve2470

(37,468 posts)
6. thanks Peggy
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 02:49 PM
Aug 2017

I have no idea if an MAO inhibitor drug would be a vast improvement for me or not. He mentioned it and discussed it for a few minutes, but since I was stable on my current meds, he said for now he would leave me on them. If there are no strong assurances this symptom would be alleviated by an MAOI, then I won't take it. I can't eat CHOCOLATE and cheese on this diet, fergawd's sake!

I'm just like you with respect to the people around me. Best wishes to you, Peggie

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
4. I notice you bolded one issue
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 12:21 AM
Aug 2017

"Having a more intense reaction or increased sensitivity to rejection, resulting in problems with social and work relationships."

I think I can understand why you did. That has to be really difficult to deal with. I'm a little bit shy, and it's not easy. To be having real problems with it... Wow. Has to hurt. I hope your guy can help you with that.

steve2470

(37,468 posts)
7. it's the worst
Fri Sep 1, 2017, 01:07 PM
Sep 2017

Imagine this analogy: In life, people are going to "bump into you". They will contact your skin, either deliberately or accidentally.

For most people, it's not that big a deal, unless it's really vicious. For me, it's like I have a permanent bad sunburn. Ouch. Maybe I exaggerated a tad but not much. Thanks for the sympathy.

BigmanPigman

(52,340 posts)
5. Taking MAO inhibitors is so complex. I do not know of anyone who has tried them due to so
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 01:04 AM
Aug 2017

many restrictions. I'd be interested in hearing more about that. I have never tried them myself.

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