Please discuss why Amy Goodman/Democracy Now continues to

[cbabe]

support Russian asset Jill Stein.

BFFs?

Like Thom Hartmann supporting Marianne Williamson.

These are smart people. What’s the payoff?

[Ocelot II]

1. Are they smart people?

Seems to me that smart people wouldn't support Stein or Williamson.

[cbabe]

8. Ok. Not so smart but begs the question.

[ariadne0614]

2. Thom Hartmann DOES NOT support Marianne Williamson.

I listen to his show almost every day. He’s a staunch Harris/Walz supporter. It would be interesting to see your source.

[Think. Again.]

3. We still have people who...

...want to paint anything on the Left other than moderates as enemies for some reason.

[cbabe]

5. Can you please expand. I don't understand your comment. TIA.

[Think. Again.]

10. I believe that there are some Dems who are still...

...trying to move the party rightward toward the center.

They have chosen to continue being internally divisive at an extremely important moment when we need to show the unity that Harris keeps calling for.

We should probably just keep focused on our support for ALL Blue candidates and ignore the swipes being taken at any fellow Democrats.

[cbabe]

16. I absolutely agree. Are you then suggesting Goodman is one of those push to the right voices? Simply

trying to understand her position.

[Think. Again.]

18. No, I believe Goodman is standing firm to keep Dems from drifting to the right.

[cbabe]

22. Ok. Thanks for clarifying.

[cbabe]

4. True. But he has supported her in the past.

For starter plus lots of YouTubes:

https://www.thomhartmann.com › blog › 2019 › 03 › thursday-7-march-19-show-notes

Thursday 7 March '19 show notes | Thom Hartmann

Marianne Williamson on her Prez Run - Marianne Williamson, Author/Lecturer & Activist; Why the GOP Won't Raise Age of

[Wiz Imp]

11. I see nothing at that link showing support

Just that he interviewed her on his show

[cbabe]

12. Airtime is support. All the msm airtime

devoted to magats and t are continually called out as millions in free advertising.

[Wiz Imp]

13. Seriously?

You're concerned about a radio show/podcast with a limited audience having a fringe candidate on for a few minutes once in 8 years? She ran for President as a Democrat. So a Democrat supporting show had her on so his Democratic listeners could hear how crazy she is so they won't be tempted to vote for her. I would call that doing a public service. The fact that he has never has her on again shows he doesn't support her.

To compare that to MSM Cable Networks showing Trump Rallies over and over again is insane. There is no comparison.

[cbabe]

21. Not insane. If there's only one, maybe two, progressive programs

their reach is outsized.

[Wiz Imp]

28. There are far more than one or two progressive programs

I can't believe anyone would consider this "support". Congratulations! You've taken a position that I would have bet $1,000,000 that I'd never see expressed on DU.

[cbabe]

39. Only two 'progressive' npr stations in my area.

[Moostache]

29. That was 2019...FIVE years ago!

Is there more of this support for WIlliamson in September of 2024?
I can't fault someone supporting an alternate DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY candidate from a previous election cycle where our eventual nominee WON the presidency...

What am I missing? Thanks...

[ariadne0614]

31. I'm glad we cleared up the vague implication that he supports Williamson now.

It would be easy for those who don’t know Thom to infer otherwise.

[HUAJIAO]

6. Amy's life is probably as depressing as her show.

[werdna]

7. What do you mean support?

Are you concerned that they report on her and her campaign or have her on the program when MSM refuses to do so. That's kind of what DN is and has always been all about. Or have you documentation of them donating their donors money to her campaign. Then there is this:

With the following description:
"Aug 22, 2024
At a campaign rally on August 19, 2024 in Chicago during the DNC with former Seattle Socialist council member Kshama Sawant, Green presidential candidate Jill Stein called out the program Democracy Now for censoring her campaign for president during the entire Democratic Party convention. "Democracy Now" and its host Amy Goodman refused to cover the other minor parties along with the Greens. Here program refused to present any segment or interview with the largest left alternative on the ballot in the United States which was the role of corporate media during the Democratic Party National Convention."

I do not advocate voting for Jill Stein or any third party candidate in this election nor do I endorse or support their campaigns, Just wondering where you're coming from with this. Please clarify your position.

[cbabe]

9. Support as in giving her lots of interview airtime. Goodman is not putting Kennedy or Vance on the air, for example.

[MichMan]

33. Is that your complaint?

That Goodman should have Kennedy and Vance on a lot more?

[cbabe]

35. Ah no.?? (That's the biggest problem with

online communication; so easy to interpret wrongly. I call it email drift.)

I don’t want any magats on the air. Anywhere. Any time.

I’m simply wondering why Goodman is putting Stein on the air. Obviously the opposite side to magats but still creates division rather than supporting our dem ticket.

[Doc Sportello]

36. It has been explained to you that she was on one time eight years ago

From that you said that Hartmann "supported her" as a candidate, which is false. She wasn't givin lots of airtime" as you stated, so that was false. So your only defense here is to post falsehoods, and keep posting even after being informed they were false. Obviously you have an agenda and the truth be damned. We don't need to do here on DU what the other side does all the time and rightly gets called out for it.

[ms liberty]

14. Reporting on and interviewing is not supporting.

And I'm not afraid of any journalist interviewing or reporting on any of the fringe candidates if she/he's asking legitimate questions.
I'm a Democrat. I want to hear what others have to say. When learn a lot by listening to our opponents - like what their talking points are and how they're presenting them. It makes it easier to counter their arguments. It doesn't cause me to believe them.

[cbabe]

20. Yes. I used to listen to right wing radio for that reason. Until

I realized it was making me sick.

[stopdiggin]

15. answer pretty simple

if Harris/Walz isn't quite 'pure' enough for you ...
keep talking about 'alternatives'

[Think. Again.]

17. I agree...

...consistently improving our Democratic party and looking at alternatives that might do that is something we should always be working toward, but at this moment, we are in a race against another party and I believe all our focus should be on that.

[cbabe]

19. Ah. That makes sense.

[JohnSJ]

23. DN is effectively the DSA propaganda outlet like Fox is the propaganda

outlet for republicans

[cbabe]

27. Ah. Thanks for that perspective.

[al bupp]

32. They are entirely listener and foundation funded

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Now!

Democracy Now Productions, the independent media nonprofit organization that produces Democracy Now!,[2] is funded entirely through contributions from listeners, viewers,[6] and foundations such as the Park Foundation,[7] Ford Foundation,[8] Lannan Foundation,[9] and the J.M. Kaplan Fund.[10][11] It has over $36 million in assets and about a $10 million annual budget.[12] Democracy Now! does not accept advertisers, corporate underwriting or government funding.[13]

I would say that they are a reputable independent news outlet. Unlike most of MSM, they are not compromised by possible conflicts of interest associated w/ advertiser, corporate underwriting or government funding. It's news to me that the Ford Foundation is a DSA front.

[JohnSJ]

37. However they sell themselves, I can see for myself their bias and agenda. When they blame the U.S. for causing Russia

to invade Ukraine, question the legitimacy of the rapes and torture on October 7, and go out of their way to provide a forum for those who agree with their agenda, without ever providing an opposing point of view, that is propaganda.

Being independently funded has nothing to do with their bias, agenda, or reliability.

it has a very left-leaning bias and chooses stories that promote its agenda.

[al bupp]

38. I think their bias is in favor people over corporations and governments s

If you don't like their bias, that's your perogative. But I think it's more honest than most of the inherent biases we see in our media.

[Keepthesoulalive]

24. Stein and Williamson are not serious people

They pop up every 4 years to feed their egos and wallets and disappear for another 4 years. They are not building a party or valid ideas , they are here to grift. In case some have forgotten after bloviating asshole won Stein raised money for a recount that could not happen. It was not in the constitution. They remind me of cicadas pop up every few years make a lot of noise and annoy the hell out of you, then go back underground to start all over again.

[cbabe]

26. I agree. So why put them on air? Goodman certainly sounds sympathetic.

[Keepthesoulalive]

30. People will sell their souls for ratings and or attention.

[IbogaProject]

25. I never liked her

She is part of the cabal that is gutting the formally independent Pacifica Network.

[al bupp]

34. DN! is an independent news source

See my message up-thread for the Wikipedia reference.