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So, I see this forum has very little traffic and wish it was filled with innovative farming ideas. I just can't get enough of talking organic and sustainable farming. It's sort of an addiction. There is just so much new info out there, I'm surprised this forum is so slow. So, I'm going to try and liven it up.
So, I grow Oyster mushrooms in a 10 by 8 foot greenhouse in my above ground basement in East TN (we always say we live in east TN, it's never just TN because the climate is so different in each part.) It took me 2 years to figure out how to do it. Now I can provide a reliable product for my customers at least in spring, fall and winter. Turns out that most mushrooms and especially most oyster mushrooms need a cold spell to kick start them into fruiting (I have actually put my 40 lb tubes of inoculated straw in the fridge to get them going.). There are mushrooms that like it warmer but they are either more touchy about other environmental issues that I can't control, or you can't find the grain spawn to purchase.
I decided I was a farmer, not a chemist or laboratory specialist and didn't want to be in a lab trying to create spawn. I have a difficult enough time just boiling my straw to inoculate with grain spawn, I didn't want to do all those mandatory cleaning and sterile procedures. So, as a farmer and NOT a chemist, I purchase grain spawn on line from an organic source and chop and boil straw and end up with 6 40 lb hanging bags in my basement greenhouse. I've tried growing outside but birds, insects and sudden weather changes have combined to make it almost impossible outside. Besides, the oyster mushrooms I've grown inside are bigger, prettier, and more tender.
I do not have the ability to sterilize, only pasteurize, so I have to buy my grain already inoculated. I have had a terrible time using inoculated wood chips. Their production is very anemic and they tend to get infected with other spores more easily. So far only oyster mushrooms have been successful in my basement greenhouse but I would like to try and am still experimenting with some Agaricus strains. I'm also thinking that in our very, very hot summers, straw mushrooms would do well, if I could only find the spawn.
So I end up with 3 flushes from my bags for about 60 lbs of mushrooms over 6 weeks. They are so delicious, I had no idea how good they can be. Now, that is a run where everything goes according to plan. I get less if the fruit flies get in and I don't get the fly strips up fast enough, or the weather changes suddenly or my humidifier breaks and the bags dry out, or they get contaminated for no apparent reason. I think in the last 3 years, I have had all the problems you can get.
I sell retail at $16 a lb in 3 oz containers ($3.00 per container. I use to do $7 and $8 for 7 and 8 oz containers but customers saw that other farmers were offering the $3 containers and didn't realize they were getting more with my more expensive containers.). So you see, it is very lucrative to get a good run. But many a time the customers were not buying when the mushrooms were ready. But once they tasted them they wanted more but then the hot weather starts and the bags stop producing. I think I have regular customers now and can count on them buying about 30 lbs. I've scaled down because chemical farmers are offering the same thing. Most people don't realize how many chemicals conventional mushroom farmers use and how the mushrooms just suck up all the chemicals in their environment. Chemicals help keep things sterile which ensures fewer contaminated bags. I don't use any chemicals the fly strips I use only have adhesive (I know because I've had them catch on my face too may times to count.).
So, in a nut shell that has been my experience. Have you had a different experience with mushrooms? Would you like more details about my grows? Is there a newer variety or method on mushroom growing that you have heard of? Are your sales better or worse than mine? Any questions I can answer?
d_r
(6,907 posts)I don't know anything about growing mushrooms.
littlemissmartypants
(25,713 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)I'm making my first effort to grow Golden Oysters from a kit right now. I hope to be able to have a good first effort but we'll see. I don't have a green house but if I find that I'm into this I think I could use a basement to grow in.
I may have questions for you later. From what I understand these mushrooms like fairly bright indirect light so I have them on the floor under a table in my kitchen where it gets bright morning light and the spore is threading the straw. I try to keep it humid with a plastic tent and spraying once a day. I've only been at it a week but I'm finding it fascinating.
I can't wait to eat these little beauties, yum!
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Sometimes they look like flowers blooming.
I think they are pretty easy to grow compared to other oyster mushrooms. Don't worry about too much light. I have 8 florescent lights on my oysters in a 8x10 foot space. It's about as bright as a super market. You can read in there easily but they get none of the harsh light from the sunshine. Humidity is the key for the golden oysters. I found that if I pumped up the humidity then after they pinned, lowered the humidity some, they turned out well. I once I had so much humidity on them that you could squeeze water out like a sponge.
I love the taste of them but some of my customers found them to be bitter. Once they are cooked I found no bitterness at all. They had to be eating them raw.
They are a great mushroom for a warmer environment. My Italian Oysters do well at about 66 degrees F. The Golden Oysters did well at about 75 degrees F.
I started growing oyster mushrooms in our spare bathroom. But they did get the tub kind of dirty.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)I'll move them onto the counter...they aren't threading very fast but it just started to really warm up here and I don't see anything wrong with them that I should worry about.
I've had the same idea as you about producing mushrooms...in this case Golden Oysters because they aren't sold here at all. I read that you have to cook them or they are bitter so as you say they had to be eating them raw.
You sound like your a very serious grower, I salute you! You rock!
How did your family respond to the second bathtub being full of mushrooms? They sound very supportive.
Thanks for taking the time to respond to me.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)My kids and hubby made jokes about it but they thought it was fine.
Once you have this small grow under your belt, you really should grow them for market. Especially considering no one is selling them. You could corner the market. Now there are other oyster mushrooms that produce greater quantities, but the beauty of Golden Oyster can not be outdone.
Their strong nutty flavor make them great for large dishes because their flavor goes a long way. To get the same impact from let's say a phoenix oyster mushroom, you would need twice as much in your dish.
Ok, I'm hungry now.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)I'm disabled and thought this was something I could manage and maybe bring in some income and get out to our local farmers market and sell direct, which would get me out into the community as well..at least in touch with it.
I'm thinking maybe my son will let me set up in a part of the basement in the house. We have a house that was build in the 1700's and has a new underfloor hot water heating system with a new boiler so winter temps would be good. I'd just need to put in energy efficient lighting (I don't have a lot of money) and somehow monitor energy usage...just thinking out loud here..lol
We'll see how I do..
They sound wonderful, both your family and the Golden Mushrooms...I can't wait to eat them!
Eat, eat!!!
mopinko
(71,909 posts)i have a patch from fungi perfecti making pearl oysters right now.
have some sawdust i am planning to sow in a compost patch. almond something.
i did some log inoculations 2 years ago, w little success. did do some winecaps, tho, that gave me a beautiful flush. 15 lbs, not counting a bunch that managed to hide from me.
i have a lot of landscaper buddies thanks to my hugleculture beds, so i am hoping to get just the right logs for shitake and maitake.
have a few logs dowel inoculated with chix of the woods. no bloom yet, but nice and nobby.
i think mushrooms are a great crop for urban farmers. you can build soil w a cash crop. i have several wild mushrooms that came in on dead logs. one, at least, i know is a nice edible. many, many i dont know, or know how to use.
even if they arent edible, tho, they are working hard to turn my hugelpile into really delicious soil.
so brain stretching, tho. i barely know the lingo. names make my head hurt.
working on it, tho, and have a nice basement to set up when i get everything in place.
if you have it down to a system, it is an easy high $$ crop.
good luck.