Please Read Prior To Posting - Notification From Group Hosts - Approach To Blocking Members

[JustAnotherGen]

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Due to the recent influx of new posters in the African American Group we've come to the decision that we must depart from our patient approach of asking disruptive posters to remove themselves. Unfortunately one of these requests (a second request) by a group host (Number23) was hidden by a DU Jury on Saturday August 9th.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118720489#post99

At this time - we had perhaps five members on our Blocked Member list. At time of this notification, we now have 31 members on our Blocked Member List. The heavy handed approach has been to protect regular subscribers to the group, as well as to make the group 'friendlier' to those newbies to the group who post here with Positive Intent.

Going forward, we will give a first and last warning to the DU Member who is creating the disruption. This is being done in order to tamper down posts in other boards indicating that the blocked member did nothing wrong.

We will copy and paste the offensive/disruptive post into the body of that first/last warning post. This is being done due to posters being blocked, then deleting the offensive post.

Please Note Our Statement of Purpose:
Discuss topics and issues which affect the African-American community. DUers from all races are welcome to participate.



All are welcome as long as they bring empathy and positive intent to the group. We experience America differently back here. Our regular subscribers are people who care and who are respectful of our experiences. They deserve a safe place to discuss issues outside of the election process. For our newbies with Positive Intent - welcome.

For those who come to agitate - please note . . . we see you ignore us when the issue does not impact your daily life or belief in candidates/politicians/leaders.

This post was made in agreement with the main hosts and other hosts. The reason why I elected to post it is because my transparency page is blank. I will be able to withstand a spiteful alert and possible hide from a DU Jury.

Thanks in advance,
JustAnotherGen

Number23
onpatrol98
JustAnotherGen
Starry Messenger
kwassa
gollygee

[PeaceNikki]

1. I'm sorry you have to deal with that shit.

[giftedgirl77]

2. Wow, if you want to talk about alert swarming just

look at that thread & in a protected group no less.

Nope, nobody around here is trying to shut down the black voice at all.

[Number23]

3. You

[JustAnotherGen]

4. You can't repeat the past

[RoccoR5955]

5. Some of that is just plain awful

I don't blame you for being heavy handed.

[tishaLA]

6. thank you, hosts

This is the only real oasis for me on this site recently. I'm happy you'rek keeping it that way.

[Starry Messenger]

7. And remember folks--bragging to your buds that you got blocked from the AA forum?

Does not make you look cool.



Don't be that guy/gal.

[Number23]

15. Depends on exactly who the buds are, Starry.

You know that as well as I do.

[Starry Messenger]

23. I know--I was just trying for positive reinforcement.

I'm back teaching school, we aren't allowed to tell them what we're really thinking there either.

[greatauntoftriplets]

8. Well said, JAG.

I'm sorry that it's necessary.

[gordianot]

9. I just got questioned why I posted why I posted on Benie Sanders group.

I am a Sanders supporter. So I take it DU has come to this a new low. I intend to stay away from all groups!

[blackspade]

11. You have to be kidding...

[gordianot]

19. No kidding very serious.

Although an old white man I post on African American group. I like Sanders and support the concept of BLM. The person who asked why I posted is not doing the cause of Sanders any favors.

I am not a racist and with my Klan run in not a White Supremist.

[blackspade]

21. Sorry, I was being facetious

I believed you.
I was criticized for correcting a poster who called the BLM ladies mouthy.
Unfortunately the thread was locked before I could respond.
Apparently, I was 'pretending to be Black' so my opinion of his shitty wording was dismissed.

I've been largely staying out of the primary groups for now.
Hopefully some folks will calm the fuck down.

[JackInGreen]

20. I saw that

and it confused the hell out of me.

[blackspade]

10. It's sad that it has gotten to this point.

But I think it's great that you all are being up front about your monitoring of this group.
I have really learned a lot in this group.
I think a fresh perspective is always a good thing for people with the interest in equality and justice.

[JustAnotherGen]

14. Thanks - we appreciate it!

[heaven05]

12. just perusing and ran across this

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excellent, I must say. Put a couple of others in their place. I am outta here, just lurking and see ya!!! Love ya......

[JustAnotherGen]

13. In other words -

[heaven05]

17. YES!

exactly....through playing these clowns game. Just like the Black Panthers, there's a new day coming and I won't depend on anyone but myself and my true allies to make sure I see that day...

[Number23]

16. Heaven!

[heaven05]

18. salute to you!

[blackspade]

22. Great to see you back, even just briefly!

[Starry Messenger]

24. Hey hey!

I'm sorry this place drove you to lurk mode--happy to say hi for a minute!

[sheshe2]

31. just a quick...

[Liberal Jesus Freak]

26. I have never posted in this group.

As an older white woman, I've never felt I had standing. I just read and learn...so much. Thank you for what you do.

[SheilaT]

27. I have likewise only posted in this group

once or twice, because as an older white woman I don't think I have much standing to say anything here. It seems as if you, as a group, have been incredibly tolerant of disrupters, and I'm genuinely distressed that you have had to put up with such nonsense in a forum called Democratic Underground.

Ban away. Some people do deserve it.

I myself have been banned from one group and one group only, and while I think they (the Hillary group) are far too sensitive to criticism, it is within their rights to ban whoever they want.

So please keep your group strong.

SheilaT

[Cha]

35. Yes, Groups Hosts have the right to block anyone who is there to disrupt.. As a new host of

the Hillary Group I've done the same..

Your opinion is that we're "too sensitive" but in my opinion we're not the only ones.

[MichMan]

52. I was blocked from the Hillary group in 2016

Because I dared say I was opposed to the general concept of having superdelegates. I was therefore accused of being a Bernie supporter and blocked from the group.

Ever since then, I avoid posting in any groups whenever possible

[mountain grammy]

28. K&R and thanks from an old white woman

Who gets educated here every day.

[captainarizona]

29. I have read this twice and still can't figure out what your trying to say

I got blocked (they say I am not banned) from bernie group for saying he needs to appeal to more minorities!

[JustAnotherGen]

30. I can't speak to the actions of the hosts of other groups

That's a group I personally have in trash because - that's not my candidate of choice and there's really nothing I can add that's positive to the discussion.

Their group their rules, African American group our. . . very basic rules.

[sheshe2]

32. KnR

Great group, great hosts. You all~

[freshwest]

33. JAG for you and all the regulars:

[Cha]

34. You all have been so Patient, Gen.. I marveled at how patient everyone was.. But,

of course.. a lot of those whose MO is to disrupt took advantage of that.

Thank you, Number23, Onpatrol98, Blue_Tires, 1StrongBlackMan, and Starry Messenger for all the work you do!

I am honored to support your AA Group~

[Cha]

36. I have to say too..

that like other people on this thread..

I have learned so much.. and still more to learn.. thank you all!

[awoke_in_2003]

37. I saw that hide of Number23's post

It is proof that the jury system is garbage. Moderation needs to come back.

[MADem]

38. The admins can 'dial down' people's jury participation ability.

Maybe they need to do that to people who are going after certain DUers because of their cultural or racial affiliations. Or, they can turn off their ability to alert if they're going OTT.

Maybe they need to do a little selective moderating themselves, just for a bit. It might make a few people shape up.

The thing I think they really need to do is stop treating newcomers like they're equally vested here--because they aren't. Someone shows up on a Tuesday, racks up a thousand posts in a few days, and they're going to see jury duty at least once a day if they're on a lot. I think in order to hit that point, it should be a function of TIME and posts--i.e. six months as a member, and 1000 posts--whichever comes LAST. That would slow down a lot of this garbage.

[awoke_in_2003]

39. If they do that and contribute a pittance

to get a star, they hold more weight than me- a three term moderator and a two term MIRT.

[MrScorpio]

40. Thank you, all. nt.

[Number23]

41. FYI gollygee is now a host of AA forum too! She has been a friend to this forum for a long

time and her posts have been wonderful. She didn't just decide to pop in when the AA experience suddenly became "interesting" to a certain cadre here.

And unfortunately, Blue_Tires has been retired as a host due to his transparency page showing. So between he, bravenak, LiberalStalwart and giftedgirl, this web site is down several minority voices all at the same time. And DU shows every SINGLE day of every SINGLE week how desperately it needs diverse voices.

We are very lucky in our friends in this forum. We have so many wonderful ones.

[JustAnotherGen]

42. See my update!

Added gollygee - but standing on a hill.

[Number23]

43. Blue_Tires is back from this time out and hosting yet again!

We have got some excellent hosts. Of all races, genders and supporting all types of candidates. This forum is in good hands.

[JustAnotherGen]

44. kick

[Number23]

45. Jen and other hosts, I am so sorry! I know I have blown up your inboxes because I have "unblocked"

more than a dozen banned members from our block list. Please forgive me. I just wanted to tidy up a bit because I know that I have not been here in months.

I kept a few names that had been PPRd though; I was SHOCKED at a few of the names that I saw that had been kicked off!!

I created a thread about it but it was deleted. Oh, such tender and ceaselessly boring flowers squat on DU nowadays.

[JustAnotherGen]

46. No problem!

I did a clean up a few months ago too. I was shocked at some of the names too. Oh well -

Now I know what the 'hullaboo' was about first thing this a.m. I.E. A heads up on what happened last night.

[JustAnotherGen]

47. PS

I don't know why that was alerted on but it was spot on. When I went through that exercise a few months ago. . . it got tedious.

[gollygee]

48. More AA group business

I had a post where I was warning someone (as stated in this thread) temporarily hidden because someone alerted on it claiming it violated DU rules. I appealed and it was reinstated. However, it makes me worried about warning people. If people are going to hide warning posts, I'm just going to block without a warning.

Also, I've made heaven05 a host, but as he isn't a star member, I'm not sure if he has the group superpowers.

Most of our hosts are not active right now, and as this is an African American group, I think we should have more African American hosts. If someone is a long-term and active member and is African American and is willing to host, please let me know. If I don't recognize you and you don't have a long history with many posts I can search on the site, please don't bother contacting me.

[hlthe2b]

49. May I ask if Number23 appealed that jury hide to admins? As a long term host of other groups,

I would be quite concerned that juries were hiding host posts trying to moderate the group... I don't think admins intended that to happen.

Just a thought. I know this is not recent, but you still might consider direct email to admins about the issue.

[NatBurner]

50. i've been gone a while...

and i think i’m kinda digging this new semi-gully approach to moderation-
i’m gonna hang out some more before i chime in any more than that

my old message board battlegrounds crashed and i need some #thatsite action lol
anyway
more soon come

[still_one]

51. Thank-you

[NBachers]

53. Your statement & policy is clear and reasonable. I support you dealing with antagonists & disruptors

[GitRDun]

54. I have not read the recent goings on but

I have subscribed to this group for a long time.

There’s a lot for old white guys like me to learn here.

I’ve never seen anything but reasonable moderation here.

Do what you need to do to keep a decent environment in the group.

I for one am with you!