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Some blacks agree with Trump on Democrats — but can’t stand the rest of his message (Original Post) steve2470 Sep 2016 OP
Oh please stop it already, like GOPers are sooooooo in tune to helping AAs or any others Iliyah Sep 2016 #1
yep, the Democratic Party is 10000000000000000000000% better than any GOP'er nt steve2470 Sep 2016 #2
the sad fact is DonCoquixote Sep 2016 #3
"...let's say a Connie rice or Herman Cain, they would have had a real opportunity...." fleabiscuit Sep 2016 #4
because they could say DonCoquixote Sep 2016 #7
they had a choice in the primary including O' malley who has a history and record JI7 Sep 2016 #5
Well, maybe you should check a little deeper into Kind of Blue Sep 2016 #11
If Republicans were running someone else, FrenchieCat Sep 2016 #6
Anyone who is for Trump Coolest Ranger Sep 2016 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #10
First of all Chitown Kev Sep 2016 #9
Too bad its all pandering Coolest Ranger Sep 2016 #13
Trump is an asshole and and panderer to be sure... Chitown Kev Sep 2016 #14
Well if we're going there Coolest Ranger Sep 2016 #15
For the most part, they vote Republican because of the racism (dog whistles, policy, etc.) Chitown Kev Sep 2016 #18
Me personally qwlauren35 Sep 2016 #17
Its still racist seeing tRump is extrapolating blacks instead of homogenizing the exploitation uponit7771 Sep 2016 #20
i too agree that democrats take the minority vote for granted La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #12
I totally agree! serbbral Sep 2016 #16
Democrats take the minority vote for granted because they can. WestCoastLib Sep 2016 #19

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Oh please stop it already, like GOPers are sooooooo in tune to helping AAs or any others
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 12:16 PM
Sep 2016

especially poor whites who out number poor blacks (proportionally) and who out number poor blacks in government assistant programs, ie welfare and food stamps.

I let my father-in-law and grandpa read this article and they shook their head. The Democratic Party has a lot of faults but shit they have for 40 years at least tried to help not just blacks out of poverty.

DonCoquixote

(13,716 posts)
3. the sad fact is
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 12:52 PM
Sep 2016

If the GOP was running someone else, let's say a Connie rice or Herman Cain, they would have had a real opportunity. AA's stood behind Obama, and were the literal "firewall" for Clinton, but non Trump scenario would allow them to turn to Hillary and say "what have you done for me lately?"


That being said, Trump is that rare candidate that truly is in everyone's worst interest. Even many GOP types are runnign for the lifeboats, because the Titanic just hit the Iceberg.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
4. "...let's say a Connie rice or Herman Cain, they would have had a real opportunity...."
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 06:16 PM
Sep 2016

I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box, but one of those two would be leverage?

DonCoquixote

(13,716 posts)
7. because they could say
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 09:40 PM
Sep 2016

Look, we have two sets of candidates that realize they want black votes.

JI7

(90,762 posts)
5. they had a choice in the primary including O' malley who has a history and record
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 06:24 PM
Sep 2016

With black voters and they went for Clinton.

Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
11. Well, maybe you should check a little deeper into
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 11:51 AM
Sep 2016

O'Malley's record as mayor of Baltimore and governor of Maryland to understand why he couldn't even win his own state during the primaries. As an ex-Marylander, if I was there, I would not have voted for him and was pleased to see him out of the race.

FrenchieCat

(68,868 posts)
6. If Republicans were running someone else,
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 09:09 PM
Sep 2016

They would still want to do away with Obamacare and Planned Parenthood. They still would have vetoed any jobs bill proposed in the last eight years, and would still be firmly against affirmative action actively fighting against voting rights!

I don't know who the black folks are being interviewed for these stories about how terrible Democrats are… Because I haven't began to skim the surface of how horrible all Republicans have been to AAs for years! Even if one goes back 20 years to the crime Bill, it was Republicans that stripped the majority of the good out of the bill… And if I remember correctly, Bill Clinton vetoed the first two of those bills, exactly because of what has been stripped out of them. as well, the welfare back to work bill was tinkered with by the majority Republican Senate and House back then, and was made to be a totally different bill than what it originally had started out as!

They are also the ones that got rid of a porn… Specifically drop Bar they are also the ones that got rid of a porn… Specifically the publication ran by Trump's new CEO of his campaign!

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
8. Anyone who is for Trump
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 01:46 PM
Sep 2016

is a sellout as far as I am concerned. I can't support anyone who started the whole birther movement. I can't support anyone who wanted five innocent black kids who got accused of rape to die. I can't support anyone who thinks of people like me to be his african American. I'm sorry. I just can't.

Response to Coolest Ranger (Reply #8)

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
9. First of all
Sun Sep 4, 2016, 11:50 PM
Sep 2016

I am sick and tired every election year of of people that reach out to the black community solely through the black church...I understand the iconic status that the church has in the community (esp. since I was raised in the church) but can white media find some way to reach out to any who are not black pastors at least sometimes...I get really nauseated with this, as many (and I am not saying most!) of these preachers are lapping this shit up).

Having said that...eh...IMO, there is some truth to what Trump is saying there.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
14. Trump is an asshole and and panderer to be sure...
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 02:29 PM
Sep 2016

that doesn't mean that he isn't right in some respects on that specific thing...Dems DO take black voters for granted (just as the GOP used to prior to FDR...well, really Woodrow Wilson...

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
15. Well if we're going there
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 02:37 PM
Sep 2016

then how come poor white voters always vote Republican. We are so quick to talk about us voting democrat but we never talk about poor white voters voting Republican though. Not trying to start an argument just bringing up issues I've noticed

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
18. For the most part, they vote Republican because of the racism (dog whistles, policy, etc.)
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 07:32 PM
Sep 2016

It's part of the reason I hate these discussions of poor white voters "voting against their best interests"...because they ARE voting in what they think are their best interests.

That's also part of the reason that dems can't make as much headway as they can on some issues related to blacks...black people are well aware of this...

qwlauren35

(6,279 posts)
17. Me personally
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 06:53 PM
Sep 2016

I would like to see Hillary reach out more to the Black Lives Matter movement.

Is that too controversial?

uponit7771

(91,935 posts)
20. Its still racist seeing tRump is extrapolating blacks instead of homogenizing the exploitation
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 05:52 AM
Sep 2016

... of all the votes by both parties.

Its not like blacks situations are so much different than whites situations in rural counties for the GOP... they're as much taken for granted as black folk.

Like sayin something about black on black crime without stating the context of ever race on race crime

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
12. i too agree that democrats take the minority vote for granted
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 12:35 PM
Sep 2016

that being said, i dont think that translates into support for the GOP.

it just means that the dems need to push harder.

WestCoastLib

(442 posts)
19. Democrats take the minority vote for granted because they can.
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 05:15 PM
Sep 2016

They can, because the republicans have obvious, openly hostile positions to minorities.

It's unfortunate, but it's meaningless coming from republicans. The only realistic way to change this, in a two party system, would be for the republicans to start supporting programs that help minorities. That would force the democrats to "work" for the minority vote. Right now, they don't have to, because for all intents and purposes, there is no other option for minorities.

There might as well be a 'Whites Only' sign on the door to the republican bar, and since there are only two bars in town, of course you will find all the minorities at the other one.

It's not complicated.





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