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sheshe2

(87,896 posts)
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 09:15 PM Jan 2017

Once the beating was over, we were free




What most people who reference Dr. King seem not to know is how Dr. King actually changed the subjective experience of life in the United States for African Americans. And yeah, I said for African Americans, not for Americans, because his main impact was his effect on the lives of African Americans, not on Americans in general. His main impact was not to make white people nicer or fairer. That's why some of us who are African Americans get a bit possessive about his legacy. Dr. Martin Luther King's legacy, despite what our civil religion tells us, is not color blind.

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That is what Dr. King did—not march, not give good speeches. He crisscrossed the south organizing people, helping them not be afraid, and encouraging them, like Gandhi did in India, to take the beating that they had been trying to avoid all their lives.

Once the beating was over, we were free.


It wasn't the Civil Rights Act, or the Voting Rights Act or the Fair Housing Act that freed us. It was taking the beating and thereafter not being afraid. So, sorry Mrs. Clinton, as much as I admire you, you were wrong on this one. Our people freed ourselves and those Acts, as important as they were, were only white people officially recognizing what we had done.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/29/1011562/-Most-of-you-have-no-idea-what-Martin-Luther-King-actually-did

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Dark times ahead. My family and extended family are mixed race. They are Jewish and LGBT Black Mexican and Japanese.

Be safe now, all of you be safe. Take care of you and yours, then stand up for those around you.






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Once the beating was over, we were free (Original Post) sheshe2 Jan 2017 OP
Well said. brush Jan 2017 #1
Thank you brush. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #3
I know most of AA have left the building. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #2
beautifully stated, she. even as a cranky old broad, I know that I can still be a target. but I niyad Jan 2017 #4
I guess not. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #5
Not being African American, I'm always reluctant to comment here. TygrBright Jan 2017 #6
I am trying to get off this thread. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #7
What you say, sheshe2. TygrBright Jan 2017 #8
We will always be stronger together. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #12
That's a great post She! radical noodle Jan 2017 #9
K&R Gothmog Jan 2017 #10
Wonderful post, sheshe NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #11
Stay safe everyone. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #13
Damn straight we won't go quietly! NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #14
I posted this to you elsewhere. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #15
Thanks, sheshe NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #17
Along those lines, this video/song comes to mind and is more important today..... George II Jan 2017 #19
So powerful. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #20
One of the most stirring and historic photographs......EVER! Thanks. George II Jan 2017 #16
Solidarity. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #18
Thanks sheshe still_one Jan 2017 #21
I thank you still one. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #22
Hugs right back at you sheshe. I remember that time still_one Jan 2017 #23
Shame on you Coolest Ranger Jan 2017 #24
Thanks Coolest Ranger. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #25
I love my sheshe Coolest Ranger Jan 2017 #26
Ha! sheshe2 Jan 2017 #27

sheshe2

(87,896 posts)
2. I know most of AA have left the building.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 10:31 PM
Jan 2017

I can't say that I blame you.

For the rest of us, please let your voice be heard. Speak up and speak out. Stand up. We all need this more than ever now. Because the beatings are about to commence. You all survived the beatings once. Will you, hopefully with our help be able to do it again. I will stand by you.

Stand by each other.

niyad

(120,423 posts)
4. beautifully stated, she. even as a cranky old broad, I know that I can still be a target. but I
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 10:33 PM
Jan 2017

stand, and support, all those around me.

sheshe2

(87,896 posts)
5. I guess not.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:51 PM
Jan 2017

Never mind. Crickets.

Stand alone then.

We were supposed to do this together. Not just for AA, for all of us. Stand together? Stand for PoC Women Blacks LGBT Native Americans Muslims Jews. I guess not. Take the beating. We will all see it and feel it. Take it alone no one will stand for us. No one. I have lost faith in our humanity. We don't stand together then we lose.

Done.

Night.

TygrBright

(20,987 posts)
6. Not being African American, I'm always reluctant to comment here.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:17 AM
Jan 2017

Mostly because there have been times when African American DUers have needed a place where white people-- even allies-- weren't assuming that their contributions/comments were needed, valued, welcomed, etc.

But while the leadership of Dr. King and other leaders, and the struggle of America's African Americans is uniquely your own, in the times ahead that leadership and that struggle are a critical part of the foundation for a broader Resistance, and the ultimate transcendence that will put us back on the path to equity, justice, and compassion for all.

So, thank you, sheshe2, for sharing this, for the reminder, and the inspiration.

appreciatively,
Bright

sheshe2

(87,896 posts)
7. I am trying to get off this thread.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:04 AM
Jan 2017

It hurts.

Bright, I am white.

I found this group after joining the Barack Obama Group. I first asked bravenak if it was okay for me to post here. She said hell yes. They are the most diverse and welcoming group on this board and the most maligned as was our President. They are so tolerant with some of the best hosts. They are warm even when they warn an intruder. I like being here, I feel at home and I as a white person have been allowed/ accepted here.


Mostly because there have been times when African American DUers have needed a place where white people-- even allies-- weren't assuming that their contributions/comments were needed, valued, welcomed, etc.


They only ever asked people to be polite and not explain things to them. Well, Bright I know for a fact that your positive contributions would be accepted.

I love your post. Thank you. As I said I want to walk away now. I know most of AA has exited the building and I am hurt by those on DU that are not here standing with them.

We all need to stand together. We do it together or not at all.

TygrBright

(20,987 posts)
8. What you say, sheshe2.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:11 AM
Jan 2017

About standing together, about doing it together.

Rather than "abandoning 'identity politics'" I have felt for a very long time that what we need is to embrace and celebrate and affirm ALL the "identities" of 'identity politics'.

I believe that we rarely get the things we fight for, when we are fighting for something we believe we need for ourselves.

But we often get what we fight for, when we fight for the needs of others.

Finding ways to do that while respecting and celebrating the differences that have kept us separate... that is the challenge.

Thank you.

appreciatively,
Bright

sheshe2

(87,896 posts)
12. We will always be stronger together.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:47 PM
Jan 2017

Not one of us could or should stand alone. We need each other now more than ever. An abomination is about to enter our White House. He and his administration is clear, they want to destroy us all.

Thanks Bright.

radical noodle

(8,749 posts)
9. That's a great post She!
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:33 AM
Jan 2017

It makes so much sense to understand that it was being brave enough to take the beating that made the Civil Rights campaign work so well. It was the bravery that really tugged at our souls and made us open our eyes to what had been going on. I was a white girl in Indiana with parents who never said a racist thing in their lives. I was in an integrated school where everyone got along as far as I knew (and as far as I still know). I was shocked when Civil Rights became an issue because I had absolutely no idea that anyone judged black people differently, that they were treated differently. But I was still a kid then, in junior high. Seeing the attacks at the lunch counters, watching the news when churches were bombed horrified me. Emmett Till still haunts me. It opened my eyes and I learned to listen more after that and to read things that made me more aware of white privilege.

I WILL stand with my African American brothers and sisters. I will stand with LGBT, Muslims, and yes... with women who will likely lose many of their rights as well. I will not go down the road of looking the other way, of normalizing awful things.

I promise I won't let anyone down.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
11. Wonderful post, sheshe
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:32 PM
Jan 2017

I am not an AA, but I remember being stirred by Dr. King, at an age when I was learning about life and what's valuable. Yes, I remember his great speeches, his outsized presence, but also, as the article states, the fact that he got off his ass and DID something real. Something that made a difference.

I once had a sociology professor who told us "A difference to be a difference has to make a difference." Dr. King was one of the giants of history who did, indeed, make a difference.

Stay safe and well, everyone. We need each and every one of you.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
14. Damn straight we won't go quietly!
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:01 PM
Jan 2017

Those who plan to take away our freedom and make a trash heap of our country will have to have a lot more than a bloviating, egotistical carnival barker as their leader.

RESIST!

sheshe2

(87,896 posts)
15. I posted this to you elsewhere.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:08 PM
Jan 2017


You nasty...

My niece posted me a pic the other night. My great niece in a onesie...Nasty Girl in Training.

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. Along those lines, this video/song comes to mind and is more important today.....
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:18 PM
Jan 2017

...than it was even 20 or more years ago. I love it!!! (PS, I've posted this countless times over the last several months)

sheshe2

(87,896 posts)
18. Solidarity.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 10:18 PM
Jan 2017

Their rights.

Human Rights.

You can see part of their sign in the back of the photo.

I Am A Man.





Thank you George.

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