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[Buzz Clik]

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[yallerdawg]

1. Truth is...

it's amazing how high in the polling mediocre teams in mediocre conferences end up.

What we don't want to see is a bantam-weight go up against a heavy-weight in the Final Four.

Remember Alabama/Notre Dame a couple years ago? The championship committee will try to eliminate that.

[Buzz Clik]

2. College athletics needs to have a private conversation.

The big conferences make a literal fortune from their TV contracts from football and basketball. Set up a playoff structure that is identical to the pros: a bunch of divisions that feed directly into the playoffs based only on the final standing in the division. No exceptions, no selection committee. Your "deserving" team didn't make it? Win more games next year.

[JonLP24]

5. The Pac 12 North usually rates

As the 2nd toughest division after the SEC East according to Sagarin ratings. It might be the Big Ten East this year but Washington is no slouch, they are in the top 2 in the nation in yards per pass attempt defense.

[hueymahl]

3. I love the idea of an 8 team playoff

The conference champion of these conferences get an automatic bye:

SEC
ACC
Big Ten
Big Twelve
Pac 12
(you could argue Big East too, but in my world, they are not strong enough any more)

The final three are at large picks from any conference.

Adds one week to the season for 2 teams and elevates conference championships back to critical role, which is where they should be.

[Buzz Clik]

4. It's got to be 16 teams at least.

So, we need maybe six large conferences with 12 automatic bids and 4 wildcard teams -- all based on either conference placement (winner/runnerup) or final W-L record. No committee, no exceptions.

We back away from the current 11 game schedules -- 9 or 10 game regular season -- and start the playoffs early. We deep-six the bowl games entirely and replace them with playoff games. Those bowl games that actually cost the participating teams money are eliminated entirely and never again see the light of day.

[hueymahl]

10. Never ever going to get a shorter season

too much money at stake. For that reason, I see zero chance of 16 team playoff.

[JonLP24]

6. I would want a fair system

Because a mid major can be better than a lot of those conference champions and the American conference is tougher than people think. I want to use BCS Rankings 1 thru 4 or 1 thru 8. because they were a hell of a lot fairer to mid majors than the joke of a selection committee. It is the most biased bullshit in college sports.

[yallerdawg]

7. What's wrong with the top four now?

How is it biased?

[JonLP24]

8. The CFB Rankings are decided by a grand total of 12

Mostly athletic directors from power conferences with their bullshit analysis. The AP, Coaches, or BCS are fair but this selection committee is a joke. How many are Republicans or war criminals?

[yallerdawg]

9. "Republicans or war criminals?"

If we had Democrats and peaceniks on committee, it wouldn't be biased and the Pac-12 would be on top?

[Buzz Clik]

11. Because a committee selects the teams.

[rurallib]

12. I may be wrong, but I believe the hitch in the system are the bowl games

none of which want to be a lesser early round bowl, nor do they want to be a bowl that has to settle for #17 and lower.

At least that was what i remember as the real reason behind the goofy "let's have some guys in a room pick 'em" system.

All the other levels do it and it would make huge bucks - but there are egos involved.

Sort of reminds me of college basketball being unwilling to challenge the NIT for many years.

[LP2K12]

13. Here's why four is the right number for the playoff

To any and all, I'm sorry your team is no longer in the running for the College Football Playoff. But -- and I've written this here before -- expansion beyond the current, tidy, four-team bracket is a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad idea.

Yes, under the current model, a Power 5 conference champion will always be left out. Good! Yes, under the current model there is the chance that we end up with a résumé comparison contest that generates weeks of debate leading into the reveal of the final rankings and at least several days of debate after that reveal. Great! Teams, coaches and fans are going to have their feelings hurt. The vast majority of those teams, coaches and fans will be reduced to spectators as the final four teams do battle to kick off the New Year. Fantastic!

This is supposed to be hard, isn't it? After all, it is the postseason of America's second-biggest sport. And what makes this sport so unique, what separates it from the NFL, is a level of passion and a degree of difficulty that exist nowhere else.

As such, is expanding the College Football Playoff field, a move that would inarguably pave an easier road to a postseason berth, going to stoke those fires? Not a chance. It would sprinkle water on them.

Look no further than The Game. Whenever Michigan and Ohio State share a field, there will be excitement and anger and people who have dressed their babies up like Woody and Bo. But think about the situation Saturday morning, with all that was on the line. Anyone who says there wasn't an extra level of electricity to that game didn't watch it. The stakes were so high in Columbus that the pressure spilled over from the Horseshoe into Happy Valley, where Penn State needed to close the deal with Michigan State to win the division, had been told the score from The Game and found itself in a two-point game at halftime. That intensity also crossed Lake Michigan to Camp Randall Stadium, where Ohio State barely survived OT against Wisconsin, which had to rally past Minnesota to save its two-loss season and preserve its playoff hopes.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18152730/why-four-teams-perfect-college-football-playoff

I kinda agree with this guy...

[hueymahl]

14. Some good points

My biggest issue is elevating conference champions. It is supposed to be part of the formula now, but who knows how much weight they give it? If we stick with a four team playoff, I would want to change the rule so that if you don't win your conference championship, you are excluded from the national title picture. Tough tootsies Ohio State and every other "great" team that could not manage to win inside their own conference.

[LP2K12]

15. I actually agree with you...

and I'm an Ohio State fan. I don't think they should be ranked higher than 5 right now and should not be in the playoffs.

[JonLP24]

16. I don't have a problem with a top 4

I have a problem with a f'n selection committee

[LP2K12]

17. Agreed as well.

No argument there.

I never got the point of the committee. They're not special. A computer can do the exact same thing without playing favorites and changing the criteria yearly.