A New Hail Mary for the Rosary?

[MineralMan]

Hail Mary, full of grace.
Thanks for your womb service,
Now stay still in your place.

Hail Mary, mother of God,
Make us a nice sammich,
Now, and at the time of our lunch.

To reflect Il Papa's opinion of women?

[Major Nikon]

1. It would be blasphemy to claim otherwise

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Ephesians 5:22-24

There's also several other biblical verses which command subservience of women. It just underscores the point of how bad of an idea it is to get your morals from a stone age book which you can't disagree with.

[MineralMan]

2. Good old Paul, the misogynist.

Didn't much like women, Paul. Don't know why, but he didn't. And so, Paulist churches like the RCC and evangelical churches everywhere don't like women, either. Even women don't like women in some cases.

'cept Mary. They like Mary. I mean...

[marylandblue]

19. Apparently he was the first incel.

[MineralMan]

20. LOL!

[guillaumeb]

3. If this is an example of auto-didact insight,

it illustrates the weakness of that approach.

[MineralMan]

4. :shrug:

[guillaumeb]

5. That approach, or the auto-gestion approach in general,

depends on the person knowing what to read, and how to read it.

[MineralMan]

6. Auto-gestion?

Makes no sense in English or French. It's a business term, regarding business management by workers. It's not hyphenated, either. Gestion, by itself, just means management.

I think you have chosen the wrong word.

[Act_of_Reparation]

7. Nope.

Words mean whatever Billy here thinks they mean at any given point in time. It's very progressive.

[MineralMan]

8. I see - channeling Humpty Dumpty?

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”

I see the goal, now. Someone wants to "be master."

Well, then...

Of course, I suspect that Monsieur B's mobile device automatically corrected his typing due to not having the word "didaction" in its word list. Of course, "didaction" isn't actually a word, really, although one can find it on Google. Autodidact, however, is a word, as is didactic, the adjectival form, although the relationship is limited.



Damn AutoCorrect!

[marylandblue]

21. Well they told me in Sunday School that autodidaction

will make you go blind, so I never do it.

[MineralMan]

22. So wise. Best to stick with self-abuse,

I think.

[guillaumeb]

10. Like MN's use of the term apologia?

Or his habit of referring to a link that refutes the point he is trying to make?

Understood.

[Act_of_Reparation]

11. No, not like any of that.

But cry some more. It's the adult thing to do.

[guillaumeb]

12. I thought not.

The double standard here is blatant.

[Act_of_Reparation]

14. It certainly is.

[guillaumeb]

9. Autogestion is the process of self directing.

https://www.linternaute.fr/dictionnaire/fr/definition/autogestion/

And the same inherent weakness applies.

The result of the self directed study is as only as good as the teacher.

[MineralMan]

13. It very specifically applies to business,

not individual learning.

autogestion , nom féminin
Sens 1
Economie
Gestion d'une entreprise par les travailleurs eux-mêmes.
Traduction anglais : self-management

The definition translates to: "Management of a company by the workers themselves." The English equivalent suggested, "self-management," is a poor translation of the French definition.

It has nothing whatever to do with being an autodidact, and it is not hyphenated in French.

If you use words based on their meaning in french, I suggest you italicize them to indicate that you are using a non-English word. I'm comfortable with French, and can look up anything I don't immediately understand.

[guillaumeb]

15. And as I said earlier:

That approach, or the auto-gestion approach in general,

depends on the person knowing what to read, and how to read it.

[MineralMan]

16. I will not be posting a bibliography

of my life here. You do not know me, Monsieur B. You have no idea. You are merely trying for some kind of insult. You cannot insult me.

[guillaumeb]

17. And your constant admonitions to think?

Your way of insulting?

Understood. And no, I do not know you, but I know your approach in this group. And that is sufficient.

[MineralMan]

18. O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us

To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae mony a blunder free us,
An' foolish notion:
What airs in dress an' gait wad lea'e us,
An' ev'n devotion!

Robert Burns - from "To a Louse"

[guillaumeb]

23. Indeed.

But can any of us really see ourselves as others see us?

Edited to add:

the Jean Giraudoux quote is my favorite.