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The second coming has been postponed (Original Post) Soph0571 Jun 2019 OP
Good idea. 3Hotdogs Jun 2019 #1
There is no reason to come back as the human species is democratisphere Jun 2019 #2
The Bible had promised a second coming "soon" ... Bretton Garcia Jun 2019 #3
Maybe it happened way back then, and nobody MineralMan Jun 2019 #4
Well... Bretton Garcia Jun 2019 #5
The inclusion of Revelation in the canon MineralMan Jun 2019 #6
It's a "Train-Wreck"... uriel1972 Jun 2019 #7
You are exactly right, unfortunately Bretton Garcia Jun 2019 #8
Hey now, it was metaphorical Jesus who said that. trotsky Jun 2019 #9
Metaphorical Jesus to be sure. Or "spiritual" Jesus. Bretton Garcia Jun 2019 #10
Here's more on DU; "Preterism" Bretton Garcia Jun 2019 #11
Why does he need to come back? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #12

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
2. There is no reason to come back as the human species is
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 07:44 AM
Jun 2019

self destructing and taking down everything else with it.

Bretton Garcia

(970 posts)
3. The Bible had promised a second coming "soon" ...
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 01:35 PM
Jun 2019

after Jesus' death; "quickly "; "at hand; the "time is near"; within a "generation."

It promised this 2,000 years ago.

Bretton Garcia

(970 posts)
5. Well...
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 06:27 PM
Jun 2019

Actually, The Church DID modestly seem to claim to be the promised new heavenly kingdom on earth. And popes let followers kiss their ring (!), as if popes were the promised second coming of Jesus.

But gradually history showed that the Church just never was as good as the promised kingdom.

Protestants also flirted with similar ideas. The notion that a "spiritual" man, is a "new creation," living in a new churchly kingdom, in Union with Jesus. But Protestants also run into similar objections.

MineralMan

(147,848 posts)
6. The inclusion of Revelation in the canon
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 07:01 PM
Jun 2019

Is interesting. It's out of character and style in the New Testament. It has caused a good deal of confusion, too. It's a puzzle.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
7. It's a "Train-Wreck"...
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 09:47 PM
Jun 2019

A fever dream of rivers of blood and eternal hellfire. It forces the Old Testament God of Wrath back to the fore.
It certainly makes it harder for the God of Love-ites to spread their message of eternal love in my book.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
9. Hey now, it was metaphorical Jesus who said that.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 07:06 AM
Jun 2019

And once I invoke metaphorical Jesus, I can dismiss any bit of the bible I don't like, so there.

Bretton Garcia

(970 posts)
10. Metaphorical Jesus to be sure. Or "spiritual" Jesus.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 07:52 AM
Jun 2019

More exactly, we might call him "spiritual metaphor Jesus."

The idea was that once we have followed the allegedly wonderful spirit of Jesus, we have entered into the promised new, second kingdom. Metaphorically. In which Jesus appears again, a second time, in us.

But again the problem was that all these spiritual jerks kept doing bad things all too often. Even James, in James 2.14-26, noted that spiritual people give us nice words, sentiments, spirits. But not the literal food we need to physically live. In this way they often, say, leave the poor to starve to death.

So even the "second" metaphorical or "spiritual" Jesus is not so good.


Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
12. Why does he need to come back?
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:43 AM
Jun 2019

Is there something the all-powerful son of god couldn't accomplish the first two times he dropped by?

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