I saw a discussion on another blog about Religion and Atheists.

[Eko]

A lot of the pro-religion comments pretty much said that you cant prove that there is no god so the thoughts of god/no god are equal.
With that in mind I just want to let everyone know that I am the supreme deity and ruler of this world. I demand that everyone send me tons of money. Since the thoughts of god/no god are equal I expect roughly half of you to send me all your money.
PM me for the bank account number.
Eko.

[RockRaven]

1. Do they apply the same logic to "you can't prove this god is the right one versus that god" and

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conclude that different religions with mutually exclusive gods are equally likely to be correct?

[Eko]

2. You need to PM me for the Bank account number and all will be revealed.

Eko.

[PortTack]

3. Kay

[Eko]

4. Of course I am being funny to a degree, or at least trying to be.

But the logic of the argument I have presented is good.
For more information you can PM me for,,,,,,,,,ha ha.
Thanks,
Eko

[PortTack]

7. I wasn't trying to be a smarty pants..seriously

[Eko]

8. Didnt take it that way at all.

But if you were, more power to ya lol. I can take a ribbing so feel free.
Eko.

[Chainfire]

23. Some years ago, I was fortunate enough to attend a Carl Sagan lecture at the local university.

At the end, he took questions from the audience. A very clean-cut young man stood and asked Dr. Sagan, "Do you believe in God?" Dr. Dr. Sagan, smiled and replied with the question, "Which God?" The young man was left stammering.

[shrike3]

24. I would have replied, "Any of them."

Though the young man must not have been familiar with Sagan's work. If he had been, he would never have asked that question.

[multigraincracker]

5. I put humans above Gods.

I describe myself as a Secular Humanist. I agree with some Eastern Philosophies that are not based on a deity.
I think it is all very interesting. But not worth fighting over.

[Eko]

6. Keep on keeponing multigraincracker.

Thanks,
Eko.

[NewHendoLib]

9. I put dogs above humans!

[Eko]

10. Dogs are the best.

[303squadron]

11. From my casual observation

No deity proposed thus far has been able to be powerful enough to pass the "mint test" and by that I mean the ability to coin IT'S own money......because every religion seems to require mine.

That's quite the flaw in omnipotence!

[Eko]

12. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

Eko.

[multigraincracker]

13. That is an excellent test.

Do any of them pass the credit card readers yet?

[multigraincracker]

14. Surprise the Starvation Army kettle

doesn't take CCs

[Eko]

15. And I immediately thought

That I should form God LLC but upon doing a google search I have been robbed.
Eko.

[Major Nikon]

16. That same song and dance has been played here in the religion group

It goes hand in hand with the false claim that all atheists "believe" there is no god, ergo they have "belief".

[Chainfire]

17. God is for those who can not accept their own personal mortality.

Religion takes full advantage of that in a series of con games that have been happening as long as the species can remember.

Here is religion in a nutshell: John 11:25-26

25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Organized crime never had it so good: Here is the results of selling immortality:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_religious_organizations

[Major Nikon]

18. More generally it's the conveniently unverifiable promise of reward

Immortality is certainly the biggest part of it, but it has countless other applications. Kill my enemies and you'll get 72 virgins in the afterlife. Give me money and I'll put in a good word for you with the boss. Behave like I want you to behave and you'll get a special place in paradise. Recruit more members to pay off your ticket to get through the gates. On and on it goes.

All of these things involve an exchange of something in the living for a promised reward that is utterly impossible to confirm. Why people don't see this as an obvious complete and total scam is beyond me. Most people seem to realize charlatans like Kenneth Copeland are fleecing the flock, but can't seem to apply that same reasoning to their own church. The only real difference is how successful those reaping the rewards are. The whole thing is masked by claims of helping people who need it, and while that certainly has merit, there's all sorts of ways to do that without the hocus pocus, and without skimming the cream off the top to use for things that have absolutely nothing to do with helping people.

Even if you assume all churches are doing something to help those in need, which is very far afield of reality. Pretty much all of them are still constructing lavish facilities, paying people to administer speeches about nonsense, and otherwise doing all sorts of things that aren't genuinely helping anyone. It's certainly fair to say not all churches are using their influence to directly or indirectly harm disadvantaged people, it is fair to say those who aren't are still providing cover to those who are. So long as they are able to hide behind some degree of legitimacy, they are free to promote very harmful ideas.

It's well past time to take the approach more advanced countries have taken which is to confine religion to a purely ceremonial role and get them completely out of anything remotely to do with public policy.

[shrike3]

22. I know atheists and anti-religious types who believe they will somehow see their loved ones again

No explanation of how that will happen.

[Eko]

20. Because,,,

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