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Was/Is Christian Science the precursor to Dianetics/Scientology? (Original Post) no_hypocrisy May 2023 OP
No. That claim is an earmark of religions, overtly or implied Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #1
...aliens made humans. That explains Trump. 3Hotdogs May 2023 #4
The one in Roswell: Caption: "You fools! It's getting away!" Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #7
Not hiding your light under a basket... I think the light is energy, the soul, and the basket, the Karadeniz May 2023 #9
I take it to mean "Don't be shy about your talents", which generates prosperity Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #10
Generally, light in the New Testament describes soul and god energy. But the ancient mystics Karadeniz May 2023 #11
Scientology is a criminal enterprise, not Christian at all Easterncedar May 2023 #2
With the caveat edhopper May 2023 #12
Yes, indeed. And it has done immeasurable harm Easterncedar May 2023 #13
Scientology is a scam edhopper May 2023 #19
I think it all comes down to how one is conditioned to think Major Nikon May 2023 #23
Judaism does have you ask questions edhopper May 2023 #24
The underlying problem is still the same Major Nikon May 2023 #25
This is also true. edhopper May 2023 #26
No more so than any other organized religion Major Nikon May 2023 #16
Years ago, some Hollywood actors were Christian Scientists. John1956PA May 2023 #3
Scientology is a money making scam created by a con man. Timeflyer May 2023 #5
Not unlike Christianity Major Nikon May 2023 #17
Interesting take edhopper May 2023 #20
A common theme for both Major Nikon May 2023 #21
Christian Science is health not wealth focused delisen May 2023 #6
Right. Easterncedar May 2023 #14
I've known several Christian Scientists for a long time jmbar2 May 2023 #8
they're only similar in name mike_c May 2023 #15
Both use hocus pocus pseudoscience to convince people to shun actual science Major Nikon May 2023 #18
true that mike_c May 2023 #22

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,091 posts)
1. No. That claim is an earmark of religions, overtly or implied
Fri May 19, 2023, 06:10 AM
May 2023

Even in mainstream christian religions (there are many), there is the saying "God helps those who help themselves" and parables about not "hiding your light" under a bushel basket.

Other than that, they have completely different origins and orientations and operations.

"Christian Science" is basically "christian".
"Scientology" believes aliens made humans.

3Hotdogs

(13,485 posts)
4. ...aliens made humans. That explains Trump.
Fri May 19, 2023, 07:21 AM
May 2023

Where's the nearest Scientology outpost I can join?

Karadeniz

(23,466 posts)
9. Not hiding your light under a basket... I think the light is energy, the soul, and the basket, the
Fri May 19, 2023, 10:06 AM
May 2023

body, the image being that a human is inherently both physical and spiritual. I don't think the light relates to material wealth. Maybe I'm wrong!!!

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,091 posts)
10. I take it to mean "Don't be shy about your talents", which generates prosperity
Fri May 19, 2023, 10:19 AM
May 2023

I did write "overtly or implied". This falls under implied.

Karadeniz

(23,466 posts)
11. Generally, light in the New Testament describes soul and god energy. But the ancient mystics
Fri May 19, 2023, 10:23 AM
May 2023

would definitely consider soul as our primary asset/talent!!!

Easterncedar

(3,617 posts)
2. Scientology is a criminal enterprise, not Christian at all
Fri May 19, 2023, 06:19 AM
May 2023

Christian scientists actually believe in the benefits of having a thoughtful, well-educated and informed populace.

edhopper

(34,997 posts)
12. With the caveat
Fri May 19, 2023, 10:50 AM
May 2023

that science based medicine is a farce and you can only be cured through prayer. Which is neither an informed or educated stance.

Easterncedar

(3,617 posts)
13. Yes, indeed. And it has done immeasurable harm
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:18 PM
May 2023

Misguided. Foolish. Judge-y. But not crazy cultish like Hubbard’s horror show.

edhopper

(34,997 posts)
19. Scientology is a scam
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:30 PM
May 2023

has been from day one. CS is a religion with misguided beliefs. (aren't they all )
But it is amazing how scams can become hard felt beliefs, like Scientology, or Mormonism, or Trumpism.

Major Nikon

(36,911 posts)
23. I think it all comes down to how one is conditioned to think
Fri May 19, 2023, 10:36 PM
May 2023

The biggest problem with religion is it’s inevitably indoctrinated into children and affects their ability to reason. When one’s convictions exceed the available evidence it’s time to question those convictions, but religion teaches the exact opposite and goes one step farther by discouraging anyone from calling bullshit.

edhopper

(34,997 posts)
24. Judaism does have you ask questions
Sat May 20, 2023, 09:57 AM
May 2023

but you are suppose to accept the Rabbi's answer. In my case I didn't and kept asking until Judaism (or religion in general) no longer made sense.

Major Nikon

(36,911 posts)
25. The underlying problem is still the same
Sun May 21, 2023, 08:59 PM
May 2023

Regardless of how the proposition is presented, religion expects people to have strong convictions about something with zero real evidence. There's just no way to do that without suspending reason and critical thinking.

Major Nikon

(36,911 posts)
16. No more so than any other organized religion
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:21 PM
May 2023

While the origins and basic theology might be different, many of the tenants are the same. In the case of both the “science” part of the name is more of an oxymoron.

John1956PA

(3,414 posts)
3. Years ago, some Hollywood actors were Christian Scientists.
Fri May 19, 2023, 07:03 AM
May 2023

A few a them shunned medical treatment because of their beliefs, and died as the result.

Major Nikon

(36,911 posts)
17. Not unlike Christianity
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:26 PM
May 2023

Paul created Christianity by carving out mosaic law exceptions for affluent Greek and Roman gentiles to enrich himself. He was no less of a con man.

delisen

(6,544 posts)
6. Christian Science is health not wealth focused
Fri May 19, 2023, 07:44 AM
May 2023

Do you have some teachings of Christian Scientists that focus on wealth building?
I have only seen those focused on health and healing.

Easterncedar

(3,617 posts)
14. Right.
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:22 PM
May 2023

Not like dianetics, or even like the “Prosperity Theology” evangelicals, who are just so not Christian, as I learned it. (I am not a Christian, but I do hang around some.)

jmbar2

(6,178 posts)
8. I've known several Christian Scientists for a long time
Fri May 19, 2023, 08:09 AM
May 2023

None of them are nutty. They just believe in prayer over medicine. The ones I know all are living (lived) to ripe old ages. However, I would worry over CS parents of kids with treatable illnesses.

Major Nikon

(36,911 posts)
18. Both use hocus pocus pseudoscience to convince people to shun actual science
Fri May 19, 2023, 03:29 PM
May 2023

Don’t sound all that different.

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