About the murder of Trayvon Martin.

[Cleita]

I just got some insight from my spirit guides. It seems it was his life contract to fulfill because it will cause a tipping point in all the injustices that this country is suffering from right now. The downright racism and lynching nature of this action is going to be a catalyst for really examining the racism that is part of the national dialogue that we are witnessing now. The code words, the stealing from the poor to keep them beaten down. The two-tiered justice system to keep those on the bottom half of the economic scale begging and poor. The race baiting of national spokespersons, whether from journalists, entertainers or politicians is going to start leaving a sour taste behind to those who once hung on every word these purveyors of hate propaganda spewed.

Watch for them to come tumbling down, one by one. This tragic young man will be remembered in the future as a hero and a martyred victim, a symbol for all such persons who were murdered for no reason other than unreasoned hatred of someone who is different from them. Things are going to change and rapidly. Also, start looking for some real scrutiny to be given to the abuses by what seems to be our emerging police state. May the light shown on them start the cockroaches within those institutions to start running. We need police to protect and defend us from real criminals, but they should not be used as armed thugs legally allowed to squash down those who are considered undesirables.

This young man did not die in vain.

[BanzaiBonnie]

1. And may justice be done for all

I understand what you're saying and I got the same thing myself, BUT... I would not want this to be viewed in any way as implying that the young man brought this on himself. This is not blaming the victim, which I have seen people do that sometimes. I find it abhorrent.

The man who shot him had choices to make and he made really bad choices. The responsibility for the action is on him.

[Cleita]

2. Where do you get that I said he brought it on himself?

I said it was his soul contract. It has nothing to do with his actions on this earthly plane or of the perpetrator, who had a choice not to kill this young man. That was his soul contract, not to do this. It was his test and he failed, but the young victim will not have died in vain. His organic life was cut short, but his legacy will live on long after and much good will come from it. Of course the killer is responsible for this. I see the soul light shine from the photos of the victim. He lives on in spirit and he has forgiven his killer. He knows the sacrifice of his life will change the way we do things so no other innocent will become a victim because of the color of his skin.

[BanzaiBonnie]

18. I did not say you did that Cleita.

I said, I got the same insight you did.

There have been times when I have seen this sort of thing being used in a manner to throw blame on the victim. I did not say you were doing that in any way. I apologize for any distress I may have caused you personally.

[handy hannah]

9. When we talk in a spiritual sense about contracts or karma

the typical reaction is: "No! It's the other person's fault!" As if that is somehow comforting; to place blame on someone.

We only see someone in this moment. Do we know who they were in their last life? Even in this life, think of some of the most heinous news stories and perps imaginable. But who were they at five? Were they abused and it led them to become a monster?

Bottom line: either this is a random, chaotic Universe or it's not.

[BlueIris]

3. I respect your opinion.

And I am heartened to hear someone say that a tragic death like this may have a silver lining in terms of the good it could do for our society.

But I really don't love it when people here try to rationalize terrible trauma like this with comments like "it was part of that person's life contract." Even if you believe it to be true, that isn't going to make the pain his family is going through any less awful. For the rest of their lives, his family and friends will live with the grief of his lost life. That should not be forgotten, glossed over or rationalized because of a personal insight about a spiritual element of the world.

[Cleita]

5. Wouldn't it be of comfort for them to know that their loss wasn't

the end of his contribution to the world? I'm certainly not going to tell them and I'm sure they are not reading this, but in time they will find comfort in his greater legacy. Incidentally, I find his family is handling this with so much more grace than most would have.

[findrskeep]

6. Cleita, I got a very similar message

to yours. And it will expose the racism that still exists so much, even though many think it doesn't. And I do think that in time this will be of some comfort to his family as well. Thank you for posting this, I completely agree.

[Ecumenist]

12. BlueIris, I come from a black family that experienced attmepted LYNCHINGS by the "night riders",

(american terrorists), where my uncle wasn't allowed to vote without endangering his life UNTIL HE LEFT HIS HOME STATE( South Carolina), where my grandfather told me countless stories of his childhood growing up West Texas and encountering "Sundown Laws" and having to step off the sidewalks and lower his eyes if a white person approached him.I hope for a huge change but would be stupid to expect that noone else will ever die because of the color of his/her skin. The hatred and fear is just too deeply ingrained.

I was told by my People, (what other call spirit guides), EXACTLY what Cleita and others were told in reference to Trayvon's murder. I know you have a problem with pre-birth contracts BUT there are many instances in the Bible where God talks about different people throughout the Biblical accounts having pre-birth "contracts". It's not that unsual and strange. Jesus is the most powerfully recorded "contractual life assignment", followed by John the Baptist, Samuel the prophet, Sampson, and many many others. God Himself talks about hating ESAU while he was still in the womb for something he did in the pre-existence.

All I'm saying is that Trayvon, I feel, will not have died in vain because he came here to teach us. The one who flunked the test in flying colors was zimmerman. He DID NOT have to murder that Baby but due to hate, ignorance and anger, he did. Tray is okay and has been since an instant after he was shot. zimmerman's hell has just begun.

[Tumbulu]

14. Got shivers reading your post

The entire read. Very powerful.... And very sad / heavy as well. Thanks for sharing with us.

I want to give you some eggs from my hens.

[BlueIris]

16. Please see my post below--reply #8.

I posted it two days ago. Maybe I should have posted in in reply to my old one, because then people might have been able to find it more easily.

ETA: I never wrote that I had a "problem with pre-birth contracts." I have a problem with any attempts to gloss over a tragedy in the name of sharing one's own personal psychic insight. However, I realize this is not what Cleita was trying to do (which, again, is why I posted a "retraction" to my earlier comment down thread a while ago.) And I hope Cleita and others are correct that we will see a decrease in racism in our society as well as eradication of injustice.

[BanzaiBonnie]

19. Thank you for your eloquence.

[Delphinus]

4. Thank you, Cleita,

for these words.

I truly hope they are correct - this young man's death is a tragedy that really could bring about truth.

[southerncrone]

7. I was just thinking the same thing as I watched the coverage of this tragedy.

My feeling was that this is a tipping point & Trayvon was an important catalyst in society's evolution. Some soul contracts involve a more public effect, while others are more private & personal. I'd say Trayvon cleared a lot of karma this time around. From all indications he was a delightful and positive soul. We will owe him & his family a debt of gratitude.
RIP, Trayvon.

[BlueIris]

8. Alright, mea culpa on Cleita's thread and impressions.

I feel it is important for us to feel free to share our insights, whatever they may be, as long as they are posted with an eye to sensitivity. I am just very wary of any comment that even hints it might be trying to reduce a serious, and in this case, tragic event to a spiritual symbol for us to 'observe.' Which is not what Cleita was saying, so, I apologize for not ruminating a bit more before condemning this.

I am also glad that anyone sees a break in the clouds WRT what our society will do about injustice, especially the base and unacceptable kind that is racism. In light of the rise of the Tea Party, a spike in hate crimes, and what I see as a lack of interest on the part of the public in healing this social sickness, I have been extremely pessimistic about our society's ability to get out of the cess pit of racist ignorance.

It doesn't help that I just finished a book called "The Age of Austerity," by Thomas Byrne Edsall, which details, among other things, the disproportionate impact the new American depression will have on non-white voters, and also illustrates the profoundly racist motives even non-politicians have for promoting the kind of educational and economic policies they have supported these last few years. So I'm not feeling very hopeful right now.

I do hope Cleita's insights are accurate. I hate thinking this is the landscape in which we must continue to fight.

[get the red out]

10. The Universe allows for better

I like to think of things like this as when a tragedy takes place that literally takes the air out of people's collective lungs in a gasp; the Universe can allow for better to be breathed in and new thinking to take root.

Just for me personally, I have to believe in free will, though I also believe we come into this life with certain possibilities and choices. I have to believe that Zimmerman could have made a different choice, that he didn't come into this world just to be such a colossal asshole, or the whole system of soul evolution would just be a boring game of tit for tat one eon after another. But we make seriously bad choices, and there are basically human angels that bear the brunt of those, then the Universal good can use it to hopefully make the souls remaining here better.

I just have to think in a combination of free will and general movements. This was going to happen to some poor soul at around this time and someone was going to choose to allow their racism and paranoia to make him or her a murderer. These happen to be the names and faces that occupied that part of life's play.

Just my non-educated bs.

[Ecumenist]

11. Cleita, I was told that by my People too and told my husband about it wednesday night.

Some people volunteer to undergo things to CHANGE THINGS FOR THE BETTER HERE BUT IT.WAS.NOT.HIS.FAULT! Zimmerman DID NOT HAVE TO MURDER THAT BABY! He chose to hunt Trayvon down and M.U.R.D.E.R him!

[MorningGlow]

13. Absolutely agree, Cleita--I got the same message

I've long thought that we are at a tipping point for all the racial issues in our country. We had pretended everything was fixed after the civil rights movement--we buried the issues, looked the other way, but they were all dragged to the surface when President Obama was elected. It has been ugly to look at, and it still wasn't being dealt with.

Now Trayvon. I don't care that, long after the fact, they allegedly dug up some "witness" to say that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman (can you tell I'm not buying it? )--this was a clear-cut instance of a horrific, racially motivated crime. And clear-cut is what we need right now--something that nobody can shrug off (the hoodie was to blame? that's all they got??) Now it all comes full circle with Obama saying if he had a son, he'd look like Trayvon. Links everything together. We have no more excuses--we have to purge this poison from our country. I pray that we do.

[Tumbulu]

15. I share your prayer (nt)