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Judi Lynn

(162,491 posts)
Wed Sep 27, 2023, 09:59 PM Sep 2023

A group of giant mounds built by Native Americans thousands of years ago just became the US' newest

A group of giant mounds built by Native Americans thousands of years ago just became the US' newest World Heritage Site — take a closer look

Gabbi Shaw Sep 27, 2023, 4:10 PM CDT



The Seip Earthworks. Mary Salen/Getty Images

  • UNESCO just added 42 new places to its World Heritage Sites.
  • Of those 42, just one is in the United States: the Hopewell Ceremonial Earthworks in Ohio.
  • The earthworks are mounds created by a former Native American culture thousands of years ago.

    . . .

    This month, UNESCO announced the newest additions to its list of World Heritage Sites. The only addition in the US was the Hopewell Ceremonial Earthworks in Ohio.




    Mound City. Mary Salen/Getty Images
    Source: UNESCO

    UNESCO called the earthworks "eight monumental earthen enclosure complexes built between 2,000 and 1,600 years ago along the central tributaries of the Ohio River."



    Hopewell Culture National Historical Park. zrfphoto/Getty Images
    Source: UNESCO

    The earthworks, which historians describe as "part cathedral, part cemetery and part astronomical observatory," are spread across the Hopewell Culture National Historical Park in Chillicothe, as well as nearby Newark and Oregonia.

    More:
    https://www.insider.com/unesco-world-heritage-site-hopewell-ceremonial-earthworks-photos-history-2023-9

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    Rediscovering America

    The US' 2,000-year-old mystery mounds



    By Brandon Withrow
    5th December 2022

    Constructed by a mysterious civilisation that left no written records, the Hopewell Ceremonial Earthworks are a testament to indigenous sophistication.

    Autumn leaves crackled under our shoes as dozens of eager tourists and I followed a guide along a grassy mound. We stopped when we reached the opening of a turf-topped circle, which was formed by another wall of mounded earth. We were at The Octagon, part of the Hopewell Ceremonial Earthworks, a large network of hand-constructed hills spread throughout central and southern Ohio that were built as many as 2,000 years ago. Indigenous people would come to The Octagon from hundreds of miles away, gathering regularly for shared rituals and worship.

    "There was a sweat lodge or some kind of purification place there," said our guide Brad Lepper, the senior archaeologist for the Ohio History Connection's World Heritage Program (OHC), as he pointed to the circle. I looked inside to see a perfectly manicured lawn – a putting green. A tall flag marked a hole at its centre.

    The Octagon is currently being used as a golf course.

    . . .

    All of these all these prehistoric ceremonial earthworks in Ohio were created by what is now called the Hopewell Culture, a network of Native American societies that gathered from as far away as Montana and the Gulf of Mexico between roughly 100 BCE and 500 CE and were connected by a series of trade routes. Their earthworks in Ohio consist of shapes – like circles, squares and octagons – that were often connected to each other. Archaeologists are only now beginning to understand the sophistication of these engineering marvels.

    Built with astonishing mathematical precision, as well as a complex astronomical alignment, these are the largest geometrical earthworks in the world that were not built as fortifications or defensive structures. And while most people have never heard about the sites or its builders, that may be about to change.

    You could put four Roman Colosseums inside just The Octagon
    The US Department of the Interior has nominated eight of Hopewell's earthworks for consideration in 2023 as a Unesco World Heritage site. These include The Great Circle and The Octagon in Newark, Ohio, as well Ohio's first state park, Fort Ancient (not an actual fort). The other five are part of the Hopewell Culture National Historical Park: Mound City, Hopeton Earthworks, High Bank Works, Hopewell Mound Group and Seip Earthworks.

    Lepper told me The Octagon and The Great Circle were once a larger, single Hopewell complex spanning 4.5 sq miles and connected by a series of roads lined by earthwork walls. Walking through both sites today, there is an immediate shock of scale. The Great Circle, where the museum for Hopewell Ceremonial Earthworks is found, is 1,200ft in diameter. Its walls rise up to 14ft high and are outlined on the inside by a deep ditch. The Great Circle was once connected to a square and a burial ellipse, with only part of the square still visible today. The Octagon sprawls a massive 50 acres and is attached to the 20-acre Observatory Circle, a large earthwork circle for gathering and rituals connected to the observation of the night sky.

    More:
    https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20221204-the-us-2000-year-old-mystery-mounds
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    Judi Lynn

    (162,491 posts)
    1. Newark golf course on American Indian earthworks can be seized by Ohio, court rules
    Wed Sep 27, 2023, 10:11 PM
    Sep 2023

    by: Maeve Walsh

    Posted: Dec 13, 2022 / 06:30 AM EST

    Updated: Dec 13, 2022 / 06:01 PM EST

    This story has been updated to include comments from Moundbuilders Country Club.

    COLUMBUS, Ohio (WCMH) – A Newark golf course situated on Indigenous American earthworks is one step closer to being evicted.

    In a 6-1 decision, the Ohio Supreme Court ruled last week that the Ohio History Connection can use eminent domain to oust the Moundbuilders Country Club – whose private golf course sits atop a 50-acre ancient American Indian structure – and remodel it as a public park, paving the way for a nomination to the World Heritage List.

    “We are very pleased and excited the Supreme Court continues to uphold a lower court decision to make this significant site, this worldwide significant site, open to the people of Ohio,” said Megan Wood, executive director and CEO of the Ohio History Connection.

    David Kratoville, president of the Moundbuilders Country Club Board of Trustees, called the court’s ruling a disappointment. Moundbuilders, which Kratoville described as a blue-collar country club, has welcomed “all walks of life” since 1910 and serves as a communal meeting space for second-, even third-generation members.

    “They’ve been through the thick and the think on this,” Kratoville said. “They have been through the court proceedings and been hardened by all of what’s taken place. The net result is, again, nobody’s happy about the decision.”

    More:
    https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/newark/newark-golf-course-on-american-indian-earthworks-can-be-seized-by-ohio-court-rules/




    Enjoying yourselves, bumblef#cks?

    Next adventure, using the Statue of Liberty for Paint Gun games!

    I've seen photos of this area before and thought "how nice it is that they keep it all so nice and well-mowed. It looks beautiful. Little did I know they were strolling around on it as part of their game life.

    Judi Lynn

    (162,491 posts)
    7. I'll bet they just took it, as if the First People don't exist. Maybe gave them some more necklaces,
    Fri Sep 29, 2023, 02:45 AM
    Sep 2023

    or whatever that crap was they offered for Manhattan.

    niyad

    (120,398 posts)
    12. Sadly true. And without an atom of self-awareness or clue, it is called
    Fri Sep 29, 2023, 07:39 AM
    Sep 2023

    Moundbuilders Country Club.

    Judi Lynn

    (162,491 posts)
    8. No doubt their historical importance is going to increase wildly, as they learn more.
    Fri Sep 29, 2023, 02:47 AM
    Sep 2023

    They look fascinating in photos, especially realizing they are actually ancient!

    wnylib

    (24,552 posts)
    13. My husband and I toured the mounds on our own when we lived in Ohio.
    Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:42 PM
    Oct 2023

    We lived in Cleveland, but I was always interested in anthropology and archaeology, so I took out some books from the library about the Hopewell mounds and we headed south toward Chillicothe with a Rand McNally Road Atlas (long before GPS).

    We spent a week driving around the state, from Moundsville to the Serpent Mound. Some people go to Vegas, Hawaii, or Europe for vacation, but that was one of my most enjoyable vacation weeks because it involved something I was enthusiastic about.

    One thing that I learned from the books that we took with us was that the presence of the mounds became a source of anti Native racism when European Americans began settling the area. White Europeans did not believe that Native American "savages" could have built anything so sophisticated. So they developed a story to explain the mounds. Their story was that a sophisticated, advanced civilization had preceded Native Americans in North America. Then savages arrived from somewhere and wiped wiped out the advanced people. Therefore, White settlers did not owe Native people any respect and were free to take their lands just as they must have taken land from the advanced people before them.

    Judi Lynn

    (162,491 posts)
    6. Same here, mopinko. So glad you mentioned it. The area features look identical overall, don't they?
    Fri Sep 29, 2023, 02:37 AM
    Sep 2023

    Surely it does inform us that there was far, far more there long ago, than has been acknowledged yet. The whole question of the Mound Builders in that region is looking far, far more complex, more involved, more fascinating than was ever realized, all of it deserving enormous respect and interest as more people find out about it.

    No doubt far more people lived in this region than anyone has recognized.

    For years I have believed archeologists and anthropologists have always nearly ignored what has happened throughout the Americas before the Europeans invaded, destroyed, and possessed as if it had simply been waiting for them to claim, the "New World" as they viewed it: an empty slate.

    Really need to keep a close eye on what will be coming from this region from future study, which is owned to all of us, most especially the First People!

    Thanks for mentioning that astonishing structure. I saw in your shared Wiki that there are two others, in Canada, and Scotland. Amazing!!!!!



    mopinko

    (71,909 posts)
    10. my son spent some time there.
    Fri Sep 29, 2023, 06:44 AM
    Sep 2023

    screwed up kid lookin for some ancient wisdom, lol.
    the folks that runs the rock shop r good ppl. dude has a collection of fossils and rock that, according to son. rival the smithsonian. not sure about that, but it is extensive.

    niyad

    (120,398 posts)
    11. Not that you do not have enough to read and do, but here are a few books
    Fri Sep 29, 2023, 07:36 AM
    Sep 2023

    that actually put the First Peoples front and center:

    Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz "An Indigenous Peoples' History of the United States" (I could not read more than a few pages at a time, I was so enraged and horrified)

    Paulette Steeves "Indigenous Paleolithic Of The Western Hemisphere"

    Pekka Hamalainen "Indigenous Continent:The Epic Battle For North America"

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