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Researchers have spelled out the entire Neanderthal genome for multiple individuals, offering new insights into their biology
by Knowable Magazine and Tim Vernimmen
Dec. 23, 2023
Neanderthals are Homo sapienss closest-known relative, and today we know we rubbed shoulders with them for thousands of years, up until the very end of their long reign some 40,000 years ago. Most researchers see no reason to believe our two species didnt get along with each other back then, yet we havent been very kind to Neanderthals since their remains were first unearthed in the 19th century, often characterizing them as lumbering dimwits or worse. Even today, their name is sometimes hurled at misbehaving members of our own species, though there is no evidence they engaged in any kind of prehistoric hooliganism.
Well, with one exception, perhaps: What they did in Bruniquel Cave in southwestern France would certainly be frowned upon today. Hundreds of intentionally broken stalagmites were found there, arranged into two large, ellipsoid structures and several smaller stacks, during a time when as researchers confirmed in 2016 only Neanderthals were roaming Europe. No one knows what these structures were for, but they suggest a tendency toward creativity and perhaps even symbolism.
No other structures of this kind have so far been discovered. But there have been many other hints that Neanderthal minds were occupied with things many researchers did not expect, says archaeologist April Nowell of the University of Victoria in Canada. The author of a 2021 book, Growing Up in the Ice Age, Nowell outlines the most exciting new discoveries in a 2023 article, Rethinking Neandertals, in the Annual Review of Anthropology.
In the past ten years, things have changed quite dramatically, she says. I never thought wed have the wide range of information about their lives that we do now. In addition to many new fossil discoveries, new methods for analyzing ancient biological molecules have allowed researchers to examine ancient DNA and proteins that they didnt even know still persisted.
More:
https://www.inverse.com/science/creative-structures-neanderthals-more-complex-minds
Bernardo de La Paz
(51,091 posts)... the Neanderthal has remarkable technology in the form of paintbrushes with the bristles bound in a formed metal ferrule. Shiny no less, as if chrome plated. Unfortunately there was an injury and his left hand only has three fingers. The second guy has a strange side-facing bellybutton.
It's remarkable how with modern technology we can send cameras back in time to capture such images in high definition.
3Hotdogs
(13,485 posts)I believe it was only 500 millennia or so ago.
sanatanadharma
(4,074 posts)AI produced by and for people too ignorant to catch ridiculousness like the modern art paint brushes, as pointed out.
Using AI is one thing; believing AI is another, accepting AI insanity is beyond the pale.
Judi Lynn
(162,491 posts)Thank you!
EYESORE 9001
(27,565 posts)Seems chauvinistic to downplay their role in the development of modern humanity. Hell, Im walking around with segments of their DNA right now.
highplainsdem
(52,649 posts)more intelligent than previously believed.
And yes, the old attitudes were chauvinistic.
slightlv
(4,402 posts)of animals are one of the things that thrills me most. Each group even has its own language, and (I'm thinking of birds right now), is more than simply "danger!" or "food!"
I'm glad that the meat industry is going plant based. Even inveterate meateaters should be hesitant once they discover how truly sentient and emotionally alive animals are, IMNSHO.
Judi Lynn
(162,491 posts)Thank you.
highplainsdem
(52,649 posts)Getty image at the top of the article.
I've seen some very upset messages posted on Twitter by real artists who have done science illustrations for years and are now very unhappy at seeing AI illustrations that get so much wrong being substituted instead. And I'm not talking about the even more ludicrous images showing up in "science" articles generated entirely or almost entirely by AI, like the one at https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218687511 . Some magazines, not just journals, are trying to save a few bucks with bad AI art.
When OpenAI introduced its AI video tool, Sora, earlier this year, there were posts raving about one short "photorealistic" video of ants underground, and how wonderful Sora would be for educational science videos.
The ants had 4 legs.
EYESORE 9001
(27,565 posts)(Dick Blick is a chain of art-supply stores)
I found one image particularly ludicrous, with the artist holding a fistful of what appears to be more modern paintbrushes like Bob Ross.
Judi Lynn
(162,491 posts)EYESORE 9001
(27,565 posts)none of them emulated the pseudo-artist Thomas Kinkade - painter of light.
Judi Lynn
(162,491 posts)He couldn't help himself, could he?
How can we be sure he's really gone?
What a vision starts to form when you start to imagine his final resting place! Will there be a stream?
EYESORE 9001
(27,565 posts)Kinkade is generally considered a hack in the art world, so hundreds of these photoshops populate the intertubes. My personal favorite showed an idyllic scene that featured a pretty bridge crossing a bubbly, babbling brook. Some wag added a pumper truck hauling toxic waste across the bridge. Sorry, I have a dark sense of humor.
Judi Lynn
(162,491 posts)illustrating early people in other articles all looking unbearably stupid. Thought of checking Google images for pictures they'd collected of other "cave people" as they painted or drew on walls, also. Was interested in seeing how many of them were so horrifically stupid-looking. You may have felt disgusted, also, by how profoundly repulsive and hideous they have almost always been shown as being, too! I didn't see any in Google as grotesque as the ones which usually pop up representing Neanderthals.
Usually the artist takes great pains in informing us that people so long ago wouldn't look nearly as "evolved" as we do!
Easterncedar
(3,617 posts)Judi Lynn
(162,491 posts)JohnnyRingo
(19,358 posts)Love this stuff!
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