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Largely religious Americans wonder how tRumpers can believe in the fantasy world he weaves (Original Post) stopbush Nov 2020 OP
I need context, here. n/t Laelth Nov 2020 #1
Context: all religion is based entirely on make believe. stopbush Nov 2020 #2
Real Christians True Blue American Nov 2020 #3
Christ was no bargain. stopbush Nov 2020 #4
Democracy is a fiction too that only works if enough people believe applegrove Nov 2020 #5
Tired argument that seeks to raise the abject fantasy of religion stopbush Nov 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Nov 2020 #7
I wonder how much of the atheist vote T**** got? RussBLib Nov 2020 #8
According to Christianity Today, apparently using AP VoteCast data, atheists were 80/20 Biden/Trump muriel_volestrangler Nov 2020 #9

stopbush

(24,632 posts)
2. Context: all religion is based entirely on make believe.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:35 PM
Nov 2020

tRump’s worldview is based on make believe.

Religious Americans who believe in talking snakes, zombies coming back from the dead and prophets flying to heaven on winged horses can’t understand how their fellow Americans fall for tRump’s fictions.

True Blue American

(18,196 posts)
3. Real Christians
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:47 PM
Nov 2020

Follow Christ. End of story. They would never believe a Con man who teaches the opposite that Christ did!

stopbush

(24,632 posts)
4. Christ was no bargain.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 05:50 PM
Nov 2020

As far as who follows Christ, Jesus said that no man comes to the father lest he confess Jesus as his personal savior. In short, fuck ecumenicalism. You’re not a Christian, you’re burning in hell for eternity. Thus spake Jesus, meek and mild.

applegrove

(123,464 posts)
5. Democracy is a fiction too that only works if enough people believe
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 06:11 PM
Nov 2020

in it. Nation States, banking, money, the laws, language, religion, etc. Anything humans created to organize themselves is a fiction or a construct. What is not is science (which is solely based on observation but sometimes a fiction when testing hypothesi). Trump knows this and thinks if he just repeats something enough times it will become accepted. Or if he rams democracy with a wrecking ball and wins in an undemocratic way that that will be accepted. Democrats need to decide if they want liberal democracy (which they do) and then fight like hell to sell it to all americans again and label Republicans as against it because they are.

stopbush

(24,632 posts)
6. Tired argument that seeks to raise the abject fantasy of religion
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 06:16 PM
Nov 2020

to the level of human endeavor based on tangible realities.

Response to stopbush (Original post)

RussBLib

(9,686 posts)
8. I wonder how much of the atheist vote T**** got?
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:41 PM
Nov 2020

Or, what % of Americans who are a "none" (no religion) voted for T****?

But yeah, my fiction is much preferable/better/stronger than your fiction. How can you possible believe in that fiction, when we have this much more "comforting" fiction/vision over here?

The Trumpers are especially the weaker ones. A bunch of them think T**** is some kind of god.

muriel_volestrangler

(102,633 posts)
9. According to Christianity Today, apparently using AP VoteCast data, atheists were 80/20 Biden/Trump
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 09:56 AM
Nov 2020
Who will be the president of the United States for the next four years? Right now, we don’t know. Joe Biden currently holds 238 electoral votes to President Trump’s 213. But, as of Wednesday afternoon, ballots are still being counted in states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia and the final decision may take days to decide. Among white evangelical and born-again Christians, Trump earned 78 percent of the vote, according to the first 110,000 voters surveyed by the Associated Press for its VoteCast poll. Preliminary estimates from the National Election Pool put it a little lower, at 76 percent.
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Atheists are super liberal, very Democratic, very progressive. They are about 6% of the population. They voted for Biden 80/20, which is no surprise. Agnostics are a sort of slightly less liberal version of your atheist—75% of them voted for Biden in 2020.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/november-web-only/election-2020-evangelicals-trump-biden-podcast.html

A pre-election poll (start of Oct) had "atheist/agnostic" at 83-11: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/10/13/white-christians-continue-to-favor-trump-over-biden-but-support-has-slipped/
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