Rudy Giuliani Married his Cousin...that means he fucked her

[LaydeeBug]

Please point this out to anyone you encounter who sings the praises of that incestuous motherfucker.

I live in a red area of a blue state, and it works like magic tonic.

Don't say he married his cousin...say he FUCKED his cousin.

If you live in Blue Utopia, please excuse my cussing. It won't stop anytime soon.

[virgogal]

1. Who really cares?

Lots of cultures marry cousins,including many Muslims.

I assume they all fuck.

[geek tragedy]

2. So did FDR

Ghouliani is a racist, fascistic thug. Focus on that.

[LaydeeBug]

4. Nope. I'll focus on what resonates the most with them because they need to be TOLD

And that FDR did the same thing *also* resonates with those motherfuckers.

They don't want facts. They don't want truth. They want to be TOLD. I promise you

[virgogal]

13. They want to be told what?????????????

A most confusing post.

[LaydeeBug]

15. If you'll notice, Russia told the media what our headlines would be

8 year old emails each and every day vs every, and anything Trump did.

The righties who voted for Trump don't want reason. The don't want facts. they don't want truth. They want to be TOLD

We have to hone that message, and rub their faces in each and everything.

[virgogal]

16. Back to your original post--

What,exactly,did they need to be told?

The marrying the cousin thing has been common knowledge for some time.

[Goblinmonger]

7. One of my favorite lines from American Horror Story: Freak Show

"You're no better than the Roosevelts."
"How dare you say that name in this house!"

[Siwsan]

29. Franklin and Eleanor were 5th cousins

Rudy and his first wife were 2nd cousins. I know and have celebrated holidays with most, if not all, of my 2nd cousins, but I couldn't name a 5th cousin, if my life depended on it.

[HockeyMom]

3. Is this Wife #1 who he left dying in the hospital

while he painted the town, marched in parades, etc., with his new girlfriend? His escapades are far too many for me to remember or get straight.

[Vinca]

5. That was Newt. Otherwise, they're similarly despicable.

[LaydeeBug]

6. I know, right? It started with fucking *incest*, where does it end? Nt

[HockeyMom]

19. I do know that it WAS Rudy who moved

his GF into Gracie Mansion with his still legally wedded wife and children still living there. There is only ONE Gracie Mansion.

[leftynyc]

27. No he didn't

NYers put a stop to his putting his mistress into OUR house. Donna and the kids stayed at Gracie mansion and rudy lived with a gay couple.

[Gothmog]

8. There are some many things to attack Rudy on, this does not make my top ten

Rudy is a flawed human being that has no business being in government. This incident is not in my top ten reasons to be against Rudy

[MineralMan]

9. So? First cousin marriage is legal in almost half of US States.

In those states, it is not considered incest at all, but a valid relationship that can lead to marriage. The prohibition on first cousin marriage is a relic of the past, actually. In most of the world, nobody pays any attention at all to such marriages.

They don't even lead to any serious increased risk for birth defects or genetic risks. Think about it. In almost half of our states first cousins can marry and have children. In the rest of the states, such marriages are recognized as valid if the marriage was in a state that permits them.

Cousin marriage is legal. Cousin marriage is OK in most places on this planet. It's actually very common in some countries.

You can educate yourself on this at the links below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state

Thanks for reading.

[LaydeeBug]

10. I explained the answer upthread. Nt

[MineralMan]

11. Hmm...I don't see any explanation at all.

Oh, well...

[LaydeeBug]

12. Sorry to hear that. Nt

[GeorgeGist]

18. The NIH disagrees.

https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/primer/consult/reasons

[MineralMan]

20. What does it disagree with? That 22 states allow first cousin marriages?

Try adding a little content to your post. Give us the "gist" of what your link says, OK? Thanks.

[bettyellen]

14. Who cares? No one gives a shit about their marriages unless they are Dems.

[LaydeeBug]

23. this is so true...but it does bear repeating. Often. nt

[bettyellen]

31. The only upside I see with DT is that this sacred marriage requirement is off the table - and taken

Off by the evangicals. Candidates should boldly proclaim that -like DTs serial adultry and marriages approved by the religious right- no one cares about their sex lives.
No one cares.

[raccoon]

17. Second cousin. No state bans marriages between second cousins. nt

[MineralMan]

21. That's true, too. No restrictions in any state,

except for some states that restrict first cousin marriages.

[yellowcanine]

24. True but that didn't stop Rudy from using it as grounds for annulment from the Catholic Church.

Never mind that he was clearly aware they we were second cousins before they got married and there was no problem with that until he started shagging someone else. So he doesn't get a pass. Put it into the "having cake and eating it also" category.

[Paladin]

22. Jeez, no wonder Trump finds Rudy so attractive. (nt)

[Grassy Knoll]

25. K&R For Thread Tittle

[malchickiwick]

26. Really??? That's the best you got with which to attack that prick??

Pretty pitiful, IMHO. My grandma's parents were first cousins; I'm guessing if you look up your own family tree you'll find cousin-fuckers there too. With all the many things there are to attack Rudy for, I'm not sure why you would choose this...

[Coventina]

28. Wow! Where to begin? Were they both consenting adults? Then none of our business.

I don't care who has sex with whom, as long as it's consenting.

Doesn't mean I approve, they don't need my approval.

Isn't this the kind of bedroom prying we claim to despise?

That twerp has plenty to criticize.

Let's leave his sex life (shudder) out of it.

[mtnsnake]

30. Are you serious? The first thing they'll come back with is how PRESIDENT FDR married his cousin

Even though FDR's cousin was a much more distant cousin, that won't matter to "them." To them a cousin is a cousin.

Giuliani was a mayor. FDR was one of the best, perhaps the best, Democratic presidents ever. Why even open a can of worms like that?