The Latest: Michigan Board Deadlocks, Removes Recount Hurdle

[flamingdem]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-wisconsins-walker-expect-vote-43927472

12:40 p.m.

Michigan's elections board has deadlocked on President-elect Donald Trump's request to prevent a recount, which means it will start next week unless the courts intervene.

Two Republicans voted Friday to prevent the recount, while two Democrats said it should proceed. A state spokesman says the statewide recount requested by Green Party candidate Jill Stein will begin Tuesday or Wednesday barring a court order.

Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette, a Republican, asked the state Supreme Court on Friday to intervene and stop the recount. That motion is pending.

A Wisconsin recount is underway, though his supporters have filed a federal lawsuit trying to stop in. In Pennsylvania, Trump is asking a court to dismiss Stein's recount request.

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12:20 p.m.

President-elect Donald Trump and the Pennsylvania Republican Party have asked a court to dismiss a Green Party-backed request for a recount of the state's presidential election vote.

In a filing late Thursday, Republican lawyers accused Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein of legal antics that threaten Pennsylvania's ability to certify its presidential electors by the Dec. 13 federal deadline.

A Monday court hearing is scheduled in the case.

The GOP argues there's no evidence or even allegations that the state's voting systems were tampered with and that the law doesn't specifically allow a court-ordered recount.

Stein has also requested recounts in two other states Trump narrowly won, Michigan and Wisconsin. The Wisconsin recount is underway.

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9:50 a.m.

Supporters of President-elect Donald Trump have filed a federal lawsuit trying to stop Wisconsin's ongoing presidential election recount.

The lawsuit and request for a temporary restraining order was filed late Thursday in federal court in Madison. It was filed by the Great America PAC, the Stop Hillary PAC and Wisconsin voter Ronald R. Johnson.

The lawsuit contends that the recount that started Thursday threatens the due process rights of Johnson and others who voted for Trump. Trump won Wisconsin and the recount was requested by Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein.

The lawsuit also argues that errors are likely in the recount, as election officials are rushing to meet a Dec. 13 deadline.

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10 a.m.

Michigan's attorney general has asked the state Supreme Court to block a potential recount of the state's presidential vote, which was won by his fellow Republican, Donald Trump.

Attorney General Bill Schuette, like the Trump campaign, argues that Green Party candidate Jill Stein cannot seek the recount because she was not "aggrieved" to the point at which a potential miscounting of votes could have cost her the election. She garnered 1 percent of Michigan's vote.

The filing Friday delayed the start of a state election board meeting to consider Trump's request to block the hand recount of all 4.8 million ballots cast in Michigan. Trump defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton in Michigan by 10,700 votes.

A recount is already underway in Wisconsin. Stein also wants a court-ordered statewide recount in Pennsylvania.

[Farmgirl1961]

1. flamingdem - thanks for posting (you beat me to it!)

I don't know if this is good news or bad news...deadlocked allows it proceed, unless the courts intervene. If so, does anyone know how the courts may go?

Gee -- with Trump intervening in the recount... it sure does bring a lot more attention to it and cause many more people to wonder why he wants it stopped.

Can anyone in WI or PA tell us the latest and greatest on this?

[flamingdem]

2. I think we can see from this that they did something hinky

We must find out what!!!

Let's keep the posts going on this because the more attention brought to it the better!!

[LP2K12]

17. Michigan courts

lean hard-right. I want to say somewhere around 5-2 right currently.

[metroins]

3. Good!

I'm not agree sure what do woop will come of it but there's no downside in recounting

[MichMan]

4. Other than the taxpayers having to foot the bill

The estimated cost is 4-5 million and Stein is paying less than 1 million. Each individual county will have to cover the remainder. I live in a rural county; wonder how many services will be cut to pay for it?

Everytime I hit a pothole that wasn't able to be filled, I will curse Stein and the Green Party.

[flamingdem]

5. Please back your statement with a link

because I just read this elsewhere as a Republican talking point

[B2G]

11. Here you go:

Q. What will it cost?

A. Stein will be required to pay a recount fee of $125 for each of Michigan’s 6,300 precincts, amounting to $790,000.

State Elections Director Chris Thomas said Monday the cost will likely exceed $900,000 and individual counties will have to pay for the additional cost.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/28/michigan-election-recount-will-work/94578560/

[MichMan]

13. There have been further statements indicating up to 4 million

[B2G]

15. I know. $900K seems ridiculously low.

This IS the government we're talking about here.

[kacekwl]

26. Why in God's name

would it cost 4-5 million to recount votes. ?

[shraby]

6. The lest than a million was just the filing fee. She fully expects to have to pay more for the

recount.
Your problems with broken roads is the fault of your government, not Jill Stein/Green Party.
Put the blame where it belongs, with the people who also poisoned children in Flint.

[SoCalMusicLover]

7. Spot On!

Potholes are certainly more important than the possibility that there was election fraud, perhaps even enough to award the state to Clinton.

And perhaps MichMan should ask the Republican Governor about those potholes, and also the Flint water that poisons people.

[MichMan]

10. What is there is no fraud?

The only fraud I see is Stein walking away with lots of $$$ while local counties in Michigan get stuck with the costs.

FYI, my rural county had nothing to do with Flint. We are way in the other part of the state. I see what the sentiment is here; because of Flint, which we are already getting to share in the costs, we deserve to get screwed by Stein as well.

[MichMan]

8. No it isnt

There isn't a separate filing fee in Michigan. She has not said she is paying for it

[MichMan]

9. My county is responsible for the recount, not the state

[Control-Z]

12. A pot hole is going to piss you off

enough to want to put Trump in office? We're talking only a few million spread throughout the counties in your state. For me, that would be a preferred way to spend my tax dollars over any number of the other ways our money is spent.

[MichMan]

14. No one thinks that the recounts will change the results

[anamandujano]

16. That's what they're saying, Dems because it's diplomatic, Pukes because they fear the vote.

[Pathwalker]

18. There have been potholes EVERYWHERE in this state since Snyder

took office, and our teabagger legislature took away money from the roads to pay for tax cuts for the rich, which has left this state in a huuuge financial pothole for the last six years! Blaming Jill Stein for the financial malfeasance of our state legislators is beyond ridiculous! And I'm not even a fan of Stein, but I believe that with Schittee now trying to stop the recount, that is all the proof I need that the count is hinky, crooked, and phony! So, let the recount begin!

[MichMan]

19. The roads in my subdivision are maintained by the county

I know we want to blame Snyder for everything, but the pothole on my street in a subdivision is not his responsibility. My local county has a budget and they are limited on where revenue comes from. If Stein wants a recount, she should step up and offer to pay the entirety.

While I was shocked and dismayed Trump won, I believe the voters have spoken and we need to worry about the midterms. It is possible that Hillary just lost and it wasn't stolen or hacked. Those that do believe that aren't going to accept the results of the recounts anyway.

[Pathwalker]

20. Lucky you. Try driving in our Capitol City, which is so bad it

should embarrass EVERY taxpayer in this state, especially since it was Snyder's administration that took $1.8 BILLION from road funds to finance that tax cut. So, yeah, it's his damned fault! Not everyone has the privilege of living in a subdivision where the roads are kept nice; in Lansing, there are potholes 2 feet deep and 8 feet wide. You simply have no choice but to drive through them if you live on those streets.

You may wish to trust Schittee - the most corrupt AG in Michigan history, but that jerk has spent his entire career screwing over the citizens of Michigan, starting with what he did to the people of Benton Harbor! The very fact that he is trying to prevent this recount should be all any thinking person needs to know to prove they are desperately trying to hide something! That you don't get that also speaks volumes. Don't complain about a few million, and then give Snyder a pass over his Billions!

[BlueProgressive]

21. Bill Schuette is such a fucking political hack--

his position on every legal issue, is decided by what it says in the Republican party platform... and sometimes just based on what the people of the state want, where he chooses and sues on behalf of the OPPOSITE thing...

I hate that son of a bitch.

[Pathwalker]

22. Me too. He is the scummiest scum on Earth.

Despicable piece of human feces. AND he's going to run for Governor, too!

[MichMan]

27. I worked in Holt for 4 yrs.

Would drive up Cedar St from Mason up through Holt every day. It was like a minefield. One day I passed 6 cars with flat tires !

[radius777]

23. GOP/Trump clearly afraid their schemes may be exposed.

Even if a recount doesn't change the winner, its still important if there was widespread fraud and voter suppression that could be revealed by a recount.

And if only one state flips, that undercuts the legitimacy of the entire election, which IMO is already illegitimate (Comey, Putin, voter suppression/intimidation, etc).

[flamingdem]

24. Good point!

Fingers crossed for at least one flip, oh pleeeaasse

[TheFrenchRazor]

25. i'm shocked, repugs don't want a transparent vote counting process. surprise, surprise. nt