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This from a Sanders supporter:
Kyle Kulinski is the founder of Justice Democrats and now has a show on TYT. Wonder why THIS isn't condemned by the Sanders campaign or Sanders himself?
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Some responses (there are other really vile responses):
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DetlefK
(16,636 posts)Haven't you heard how this "Democrat" has come out against these vile attempts to split the Democratic Party?
How he has come out against people who spread republican and russian talking-points?
How he has come out against people who get a kick out of triggering them libruls?
How he has come out against people who tie the Democratic Party of today to the Ku-Klux-Klan?
How he has come out against people who say that Democrats and Republicans are both equally corrupt?

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
irisblue
(34,879 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Everyone ought to be clear --- he could not rein these people in, even if he wanted to. They are largely his creation, and without them, he is nothing. But 'Bernie' cannot control them, he cannot lead them. He has 'called up that which he cannot put down' and they would turn on 'Bernie' in a flash if he sought to actually negotiate in good faith, and accept terms for agreement to lend support to Mr. Biden in the general election.
"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(35,566 posts)Not wanting to argue

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)Bernie's supporters are still pushing this dementia nonsense? Well, that would mean that Bernie Sanders lost the last debate to a guy with dementia. How much of a loser would Bernie have to be to lose a debate to a guy with dementia?
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-sanders-debate-poll/]
According to FiveThirtyEight.com, Joe Biden gained support by 3.4% after the debate, and Sanders lost support by 2.0% after the debate.
How much of a loser would Bernie have to be to lose a debate to a guy with dementia? Are you sure this is the argument that you want to go with, Kyle Kulinski?

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)That is only the corporate media doing its part in rigging the process against
Bernie', who is actually triumphing everywhere!
"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kurtcagle
(2,398 posts)Simple enough. Dementia is a clinical diagnosis, and can usually be detected through simple screenings. Biden's medical records have been (I believe) released, Bernie's have not. It's the same argument I use for Trump supporters that try to make it an issue. As I STRONGLY doubt that either Sanders or Trump will ever release their medical records, it becomes a moot point.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tirebiter
(2,623 posts)Bernie really really thinks there’s a hole he can slip through and behind the scenes his good friend, Joe Biden is trying to talk him down, gently.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,648 posts)it's obvious to all that Sanders has no path to the nomination.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Sanders? Sanders has no friends. He just isn't that sort of a fella...
"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot." .

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Legends303
(481 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Historic NY
(38,862 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)He and His Supporters are all going on my Ignore list as of now.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(309,799 posts)cenk's a$$ for misogyny.
I can see by his tweets that he's just a desperate stupid ****.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden


primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DENVERPOPS
(11,809 posts)wonder why he is taking a huge nose dive in the polling. Hey Berniehumpers, Bernie and you all are sounding more and more like Trump and his radical nut job supporters each and every day, and, in addition, really getting more vile each and every day......
The guy isn't even a dem.....the DNC should just say enough is enough and just throw him out of the Dem party, therefore he can't be a presidential Dem candidate.People, we are going to put up with 3? more MONTHS of his tearing down Biden before the convention.
I swear, I am begging to wonder if Sanders has sold out to Putin and is doing his dirty work, or at least continuing to be supported with "campaign" money, not from his supporters, but channeled from Russian Oligarchs to disrupt Democrats, but mostly to destroy democracy here in the U.S.
Problem is, the DNC knows just how nasty and vindictive his followers are, and know that Bernie would just flip to being an independent and run for president. Bernie and his followers would euphorically split the vote to show the world that he is the best and Biden is the worst because their vote splitting knocked Biden out,..... little care that their actions allowed Trump to win. We are talking dejavu here folks. ala....Ralph Nader? Comrade Jill Stein?
The same precise thing happened here in Colorado years ago. Dottie Lamm and Josie Heath vs Republican for Senate seat.
Dottie Lamm was by far and away the best person for the job, no question. Josie Heath, a lot like Bernie, with supporters a lot like Bernie's, mostly from Boulder Co.
Josie, full of herself", Heath lost the dem primary. And immediately declared she was a candidate on the Independent ticket. Her band of Boulder Yuppies voted for her, stealing more than enough votes to allow the Republican to win....Heath and her voters knew DAMN well that if Lamm had taken the vast majority of voters in the Primary, that Heath and her followers, knew full well they couldn't get anywhere near enough votes to win the Senate seat. They just torpedoed Lamm to act out and be vindictive that they didn't get their way......just like impudent children, but all grown up....
By the way, if any of you folks are thinking "good ol' Hippies in Boulder", knock that silliness out of your brains......
There are still a few scattered hippy types scattered around that city, But Boulder was long ago taken over by rich yuppies, using Boulder as their bedroom community. From my dealings with heir government officials and watching their actions, they are by far more right wing, or bizarre wing than Hippy Dem leaning. Many old timers refer to the City of Boulder, as the People's Republic of Boulder.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(161,832 posts)I am tired of sanders and his supporters demanding that we bend a knee and anoint sanders as the nominee. It may be better to simply give up on the 15% who will not vote for any real Democrat and move on
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The problem, according to many Democrats, remains that 15 percent of Sanders supporters say in polling that they would vote for President Trump over Biden. This nugget actually makes the opposite argument: There is nothing that would satisfy some faction of the Sanders coalition that would rather blow up our democracy and reelect Trump. With people so irrational, the best response is to ignore them. They, like the MAGA-hat crowd, are unreachable and cannot be bargained with (e.g., more New Green Deal talk!). So do not try. No more outreach to Sanders, no more promised policy modifications, no more speaking slot at the convention. Enough
This would have some salutary effects.
First, it would make perfectly clear that Biden is not Sanders and not a crazy left-winger, as Trump would like to paint him in the campaign. Biden makes a sharp distinction between the “democratic socialist” crowd and his own brand of center-left politics. Since he cannot get the 15 percent of “Bernie or Bust” Democrats (or independents), he might as well make a strong play for moderate independents and disaffected Republicans. Cutting Sanders off effectively allows Biden to pitch to gettable swing voters, not waste time on unattainable Bernie Bros.
Second, freezing out Sanders will make governance in a Biden administration much easier and more cohesive. There will be no debt to be paid to Sanders, no advisers taken on to satisfy Sanders, and no weird and distracting policy initiatives to lead the new administration astray. This would be a center-left administration confident of its own governing agenda — and personally cohesive.
Third, it would free up constructive, smart progressive leaders such as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) to lead that wing of the party. She has already begun that process, contributing bankruptcy and student loan forgiveness plans to the Biden campaign. With a practical, crafty progressive in the Senate (hopefully in the majority and able to lead on legislation), Biden would be able to broaden his appeal and cultivate allies in the Warren wing of the party.
In other words, shoving Sanders offstage opens up room for party builders and party reformers, putting aside unattainable proposals (e.g., Medicare-for-all) in favor of a smarter, more broadly acceptable agenda. (Biden would not need to fend off a Warren primary challenge, as Barack Obama did with Sanders in 2012.)
The party is never going to make the 15% to 25% of sanders supporters happy. 25% of sanders supporters either voted for trump, voted for a third party candidate like Stein or stayed home
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I am tired of trying to appease sanders supporters who are not going to be happy and there are real benefits in moving on and ignoring these voters.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)'Bernie' badly needs to sit down and shut up, and cease his destructive, divisive grandstanding.
It is time for the Party to take sides, and openly begin campaigning and raising funds for Mr. Biden. e is, after all, the only Democrat remaining in the contest.
"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(161,832 posts)Operation Chaos was active in the early states including South Carolina
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Some of the votes for sanders in the early states were clearly GOP voters voting for the weakest possible general election candidate.
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Even with help from the GOP, sanders was not impressive in the early states

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden