Is the Sanders Campaign Hoping That Joe Biden Dies?

[MineralMan]

Surely that cannot be true. There must be some other reason for the Senator to continue in the face of a humiliating loss. I hope someone can offer a less maudlin reason for his decision to remain in this primary race.

[George II]

1. There have been tweets for more than a week from his supporters suggesting that might happen.

[The Magistrate]

2. Certainly, Sir, One Would Want To Not Be True

This vulture's hope is emerging as a theme among some of his supporters, it seems....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Gothmog]

6. Joe Biden dying would not give sanders the nomination

These real Democrats do not forgive or forget

Link to tweet

[The Magistrate]

7. Of Course Not, Sir

But we are dealing with people whose understanding of political life is, to put it mildly, otherworldly or otherwise sadly deficient....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[ehrnst]

37. I think that's very true. (nt)

[TomCADem]

47. Donald Trump hints at assassination of Hillary Clinton by gun rights supporters

It is uncanny the things that Bernie's campaign and its supporters say...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/09/trump-gun-owners-clinton-judges-second-amendment

Donald Trump has been accused of a making an “assassination threat” against rival Hillary Clinton, plunging his presidential campaign into a fresh crisis.

The volatile Republican nominee was speaking at a rally in Wilmington, North Carolina, about the next president’s power to appoint supreme court justices. “Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the second amendment,” said Trump, eliciting boos from the crowd.

“If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the second amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.”

The second amendment to the constitution protects the right of Americans to bear arms. Trump has accused his Democratic rival of wanting to abolish it, a charge that she denies.

[The Magistrate]

48. That Is Worth Remembering, Sir

But it in regards to the vulture's dream of some Sanders supporters, it has been some while since 'ill-wishing' has come under criminal codes defining black magic.

[William769]

3. I don't know but Iv'e been told

"The Democratic party dies". We all know though that will never happen.

[Gothmog]

4. sanders' only path to the nomination is to hope that Joe dies

Link to tweet

[leftieNanner]

10. That is really sick

But even if the most terrible thing happened and Joe Biden died, that doesn't mean that the Democratic convention would nominate Bernie automatically. We might choose someone else entirely. I would think that the delegates could vote for anyone, right?

Warren? Inslee? Cuomo? Klobuchar?

[Gothmog]

18. sanders was also hoping for Clinton to be arrested in 2016

[The Magistrate]

23. And Sent His Wife Out To Float That Lead Balloon, Sir

The 'chicks up front' types, who wanted women in the front rank of demonstrations clearly going sour as police lines advanced, because it might give good pictures in the paper never impressed me much. A man of honor would have done it himself, openly and without the least fudge in his words.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Happy Hoosier]

5. I think that maybe they think....

That voters will suddenly have a change of heart? Or they don't care and it's all about ego.

[sweetloukillbot]

8. That's the impression I've gotten from a some of the tweets I've seen

Or that the rape charges would've panned out more than they have.

[MineralMan]

9. The Fake Rape Charges Were Ridiculous.

Last Gasp Desperation.

[comradebillyboy]

16. Red Rose twitter is pushing the phony rape allegation

as hard as they can. They are still going on about dementia as well.

[MineralMan]

17. Yes, I've noticed that.

However, I don't take any of it seriously at all. It's more last gasp desperation.

[Lulu KC]

11. Reflections on this from Twitter

At some point the "boomer remover" tweets kind of crossed over into the "Sleepy Joe" lane, and red roses appeared on both. At the time, it was a plate of spaghetti, covered with the sauce of grasping C-19 itself, with the meatballs of Seattle and Italy and New York taking my attention. In hindsight, the patterns were so obvious. (This analogy is making me hungry, and is, I'm sure, influenced by watching those Cuomo brothers being so funny together.)

I do not know that it is the campaign itself that's doing it, though there are certainly some weirdos working for him. This morning, I'm just seeing Putin at the wheel, and that's another plate of spaghetti.

What I do not get: Why it is not obvious that both of them were in the original "high risk" category. Now that it's happening to younger people, it looks like that was sort of a myth, but they are both over 60 and vulnerable. Of course, Sanders has the heart thing.

There is so much I do not understand right now, but what is clear is that a great president can assemble a team and get buy-in from his political adversaries. That's Joe. Thanks for being there, Joe.

[Don1]

12. conspiracy theory

[MineralMan]

13. And yet...

I recall a thread you started yesterday based on a similar topic.

Your thread speculated on what would happen if Joe Biden died. Having read many of your posts over the past couple of months, I found that one very interesting, indeed. Interesting enough, in fact, for me to write the post that begins this thread.

So, thank you for the reply.

[Don1]

45. I was referring to previous talk in the thread calling a Democratic Party campaign wishing for death

or working for Putin a conspiracy theory. We shouldn't say that Democratic Party campaigns are engaging in conspiracies.

[The Magistrate]

14. Not At All, Sir --- No One Is Suggesting He Means To Surreptitiously Contrive Mr. Biden's Death

Speculation that he would welcome it, and see it as his path to victory in the primary, may prove untrue, but it is not at the moment unreasonable.


"We all have bloody thoughts."





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[TwilightZone]

15. Says the poster who posted a thread on the exact topic.

Your motivations are rather transparent.

[Demsrule86]

29. You posted a thread on this very topic. And Sanders supporters are very straight about this...they

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'hope' Biden dies.

Link to tweet

Thread not threat...updated Mea Culpa...

[The Magistrate]

36. That 'Tweeter' Picked An Interesting Mniker, Sir

The name is that of a union leader who uses his position to facilitate smuggling of cocaine and prostitutes into Baltimore in the second season of 'The Wire'.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Demsrule86]

38. Thank you for telling me about the name, I was unaware if this...Magistrate I learn something from

all your posts!

[The Magistrate]

39. If You Have Not Seen It, Sir

'The Wire' is a first rate show.

Be well, and stay safe!

[Demsrule86]

40. I will watch the Wire...heard it was good...you be well and stay safe also....

[comradebillyboy]

19. Sanders seems to be clueless about winning friends and

making allies in politics. I am reminded that he was hoping Hillary would be indicted in 2016. I hate him more every day. I am so glad I will never have to vote for him.

[MH1]

20. Some of his supporters probably do. Sanders himself, probably no.

(God I hope no, for Sanders himself at least)

There is a rational argument that if Biden MIGHT die, it is better for Sanders to be in the race than to have withdrawn. For those who support his policies and candidacy at all, anyway. This logic does not necessitate that the arguer hopes Biden dies. Just that they think it is a not insignificant possibility.

That said, one reason I have been so down on Sanders even running this time, is he has a subset of followers who are absolutely horrible. I have no doubt that some among them do actively hope for Biden's death.

[Demsrule86]

21. I believe some of them are. Also, some have convinced themselves that the Corona Virus is a game

changer and people will flock to Sander because of M4A during this crisis...I don't think they will. He is finished...looks like he will be humiliated in Wisconsin which will have a primary because of an important judge election. The GOP who want to kill folks as usual refused the governors request for a mail in election. There is still a court action that is pending so we shall see.

[TomCADem]

22. Last Time Around, Russian Hacked Emails Showed Up on Wikileaks

Is this what the BS campaign is now referring to when they say, "you never know what might happen?" as a justification for staying in?

Are they expecting a similar assist? Or, are they just speculating?

[MineralMan]

26. I'm completely unable to discern what is meant by anything

the Sanders campaign says. Most often, it makes no sense to me.

[NurseJackie]

24. Well... I'm hoping for the exact opposite.

I want Joe Biden to live and serve 8 full years.

[treestar]

25. Bernie is as likely to die

So it would be kind of odd. If Bernie were 20 years younger, you can imagine it coming from a few of the worst supporters. Bernie is the one who had a heart attack, too.

[MineralMan]

31. Statistically, we all have a very low risk of dying from Coronavirus.

Our risk of infection is much higher, of course, but even then, the risk of death is still low, even for older people, although it is higher for those over 70. However, if proper precautions are taken, the risk of death for anyone remains quite low.

All of the potential players in the 2020 election are over 70 years of age. I expect all three to still be around in November, although only two will be standing for election at that time.

The campaign, however, will be missing the normal "pressing of the flesh."

[comradebillyboy]

42. He looked like death warmed over on The View yesterday...

[NNadir]

27. I would hope not, but you never know. I don't want Senator Sanders to die, but...

...I would like him to go away.

[la-trucker]

28. That is their only hope

However, god forbid if it happens, Sanders will still not be the nominee.

[PAMod]

30. And if so, what makes them think Sen Sanders...

...would be “next in line”?

I doubt that very much.

[TwilightZone]

33. They think he can demand the nomination at the convention.

Because he'll have the next highest number of delegates. They don't seem to understand that Biden's delegates would most likely coalesce behind someone else, not Bernie.

[RockRaven]

32. That explanation is consistent with their behavior.

Other explanations are perhaps also consistent with their behavior, and it would behoove them to offer one. The "we still have a chance of beating Biden" one is not holding water in the minds of anyone who can do arithmetic and read polls.

[Scurrilous]

34. There were exilio nut jobs in Miami wishing death on Castro for 55+ years.

After he finally died at age 90 his brother quickly took over and the few original exilios who outlived him were left to mill about on Calle Ocho holding their pingas...err, pina coladas.

Wishing death on your opponent is not an effective strategy.

[GemDigger]

35. I have noticed that

most of the very loud "vote blue no matter who" people are not on the blue bandwagon.

[helpisontheway]

41. Probably..Hope he realizes that the Democratic Party would never give

the nomination to someone that only has support of 30% of the party.

[LizBeth]

43. That was their excuse staying in with HRC. Death or prison.

[Pathwalker]

44. I think so. Why else do they keep bringing up such a

macabre idea? I don't buy "simple curiosity".

[DenverJared]

46. Reading twitter posts by Sanders' supporters

That is exactly what they are hoping for