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TomCADem

(17,772 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:24 PM Apr 2020

Should Bernie Have a Better Chance In Wisconsin, Since His Base...

...arguably skews younger than Biden's? In other words, because younger folks are not a vulnerable population, does this mean that Bernie could win because older voters are encouraged to stay home given that the RNC won the lawsuit against the DNC to accept absentee ballots over a longer period of time?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Should Bernie Have a Better Chance In Wisconsin, Since His Base... (Original Post) TomCADem Apr 2020 OP
No. Young people don't vote, even when there isn't an epidemic. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #1
There is still mail-in ballots Claustrum Apr 2020 #2
Though, Isn't This Where The RNC's Lawsuit Really Hurts? TomCADem Apr 2020 #7
Hasn't the Bernie base been failing to show up in primary after primary? Tarc Apr 2020 #3
His alleged base is it real or imagined since they never seem to show up on election day? brush Apr 2020 #8
That's what Rebl2 Apr 2020 #9
His hostile base are still with him. He's lost large numbers of Hortensis Apr 2020 #19
Yes, if he doesn't win in a landslide he has no support. getagrip_already Apr 2020 #4
Worse than that: 5/180 AleksS Apr 2020 #10
I read Wisconsin is an open primary... so could Cha Apr 2020 #5
Yes. AleksS Apr 2020 #12
Thanks.. But if the repubs are voting for the RW judges they Cha Apr 2020 #15
Nope. IluvPitties Apr 2020 #6
We won't know for a few days. FloridaBlues Apr 2020 #11
The "Bernie base" won't show up either way. DenverJared Apr 2020 #13
A better chance at what? nt B Stieg Apr 2020 #14
Yeah, because if he wins during a a crisis that would be a truly representative vote ... marble falls Apr 2020 #16
Even with out the virus his campaign is now a farce. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #17
Bernie doesn't know what he's waiting for. Tetrachloride Apr 2020 #18
And? Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #20
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(121,224 posts)
1. No. Young people don't vote, even when there isn't an epidemic.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:27 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Claustrum

(5,052 posts)
2. There is still mail-in ballots
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:27 PM
Apr 2020

There is still mail-in ballots and from the photos I've seen, the voters on lines still seem to be on the older side. But no matter who win or lose, it's hard to call this election to be legitimate with a pandemic happening.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TomCADem

(17,772 posts)
7. Though, Isn't This Where The RNC's Lawsuit Really Hurts?
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:33 PM
Apr 2020

While there was a rush to get absentee ballots, there is no extension of time to send them in despite all the delays to due to COVID-19.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tarc

(10,575 posts)
3. Hasn't the Bernie base been failing to show up in primary after primary?
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:28 PM
Apr 2020

They seem to be otherwise preoccupied, thus failing to actually make it to the ballot box. I don't see WI turning out any differently.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(57,941 posts)
8. His alleged base is it real or imagined since they never seem to show up on election day?
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:42 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Rebl2

(14,870 posts)
9. That's what
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:45 PM
Apr 2020

has happened in the last few primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. His hostile base are still with him. He's lost large numbers of
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:59 AM
Apr 2020

Democratic voters.

Nothing new about some of his base not making it to the ballot box, though. Higher numbers of those who enjoy his rallies and social media campaigning than supporters of other candidates don't register to vote or otherwise bother to vote. Same as in 2016, and in 2018 for those candidates he genuinely supported.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

getagrip_already

(17,498 posts)
4. Yes, if he doesn't win in a landslide he has no support.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:31 PM
Apr 2020

Bidens support comes from the AA community which saw polling places closed today (only 20 out of 180 sites opened in milwaukee), and elderly voters who shouldn't be going out.

Sure, joe has broad support in all groups except the most activist separatists, but Bernie's bots are trump voters who don't care and just want a chaos result or are zealots and will show up for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AleksS

(1,701 posts)
10. Worse than that: 5/180
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:55 PM
Apr 2020

Worse than that. MIlwaukee, with a population >600,000 people had 5 (five) in person polling stations.

Want a reason the GOP was willing to commit actual murder by sending people out to get COVID19 voting in person today? There you have it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(305,693 posts)
5. I read Wisconsin is an open primary... so could
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:32 PM
Apr 2020

repub voters coming out for the judges be able to vote for BS, too?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AleksS

(1,701 posts)
12. Yes.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:56 PM
Apr 2020

Every voter got to pick, on the ballot, which primary they were voting in, R or D. Anyone can vote for either primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(305,693 posts)
15. Thanks.. But if the repubs are voting for the RW judges they
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:15 PM
Apr 2020

can't vote for a Dem on the same ballot?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FloridaBlues

(4,379 posts)
11. We won't know for a few days.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:56 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
13. The "Bernie base" won't show up either way.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:06 PM
Apr 2020

They are affluent and privileged and their life doesn't depend upon the election.

The more mature voters will crawl over hot broken glass to get to the polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
14. A better chance at what? nt
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:08 PM
Apr 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marble falls

(62,398 posts)
16. Yeah, because if he wins during a a crisis that would be a truly representative vote ...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:16 PM
Apr 2020

I hope he gets mopped the floor with. Trying to win by guile, victory at any cost doesn't sound very Democratic to me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
17. Even with out the virus his campaign is now a farce.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:41 PM
Apr 2020

A skit, a comedy, a sham and most of all a parody of itself.

Even more than ever, Americans don’t want a disrupter. We’ve had enough of that shit.

The entire nation know the candidates. Biden and Trump.

The last thing Democratic voters want is another old populist guy yelling platitudes at us. We’ve had enough of that.

We need solid policy positions that can actually pass in the Congress.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tetrachloride

(8,478 posts)
18. Bernie doesn't know what he's waiting for.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:08 PM
Apr 2020

1. More primaries to lose ?

2. More endorsements from fellow Senators ?

3. More TV appearances ?


"Assessing a campaign" usually means counting your votes and future votes. There's no sign that Bernie considers a vote count as his primary method of "assessing."

If not votes, then Bernie should be thinking of legacy. Legacy in a losing voting battle means that Bernie is 3rd man in a 2 man race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(8,489 posts)
20. And?
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:10 AM
Apr 2020

Bernie needs to win every race by about 25% to win the nomination and Joe Biden could LOSE every race by about 10% and still clinch.

WTF difference does it make whether or not Bernie over-performs a bit under shitty turn-out conditions?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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