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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)The ISFV didn't deliver the rainbows and ponies and they be mad as shit.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,835 posts)"You cannot not blame the left for your chosen candidate’s vulnerabilities."

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ismnotwasm
(42,625 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)This person, like any number of 'Bernie' supporters, makes it abundantly clear that attacking Democrats is preferable to attacking Republicans.
The 'further left' traditionally take as their chief immediate enemy parties and political figures of the center left, rather than parties and figures of the right. This is because a strong center-left party balks any possibility of revolution. It will have the allegiance of most working people, because it will bring them real benefits in their lives, and by doing so, will shut off influence of the 'further left' by making it clear measures well short of the desperate expedients the 'further left' prescribes for improving the lot of working people are not necessary.
Because center-left parties do uphold the present order of society, the 'further left' sees them as obstacles to its desires quite as much as any reactionary party on the right. Thus you have the 'not a dime's worth of difference' line that views our two major parties as interchangeable. Since the 'further left' cannot comprehend how working people could possibly form an honest attachment to rightist parties, their view comes to be that center-left parties are their chief obstacle to mass support from working people, and they imagine that if center-left parties are broken, they will inherit the mass support of working people, and thus become predominant. Then it will be the time to deal with the reactionary right, but until it is the 'further left' which has undisputed leadership of working people, the reactionary right cannot be dealt with properly.
Properly, here, indicating a policy guided by the slogan quite popular in the radical salad days of the sixties and seventies: 'What's the solution? Revolution!' Few nowadays on the 'further left' dream of an actual, barricades and snipers and car-bombs sort of armed revolution, but they do envision a complete overthrow of existing economic and social arrangements. One of the things they fail to understand about working people, and people on the lower rungs of the economic scale generally, is that people who have not much but do have a little are extremely reluctant to put the little they have at risk, and they know that in turmoil and tumult that little will be at risk. There are strains of the 'further left' which do have some understanding of this, and their view is that working people must be made to lose that little they have now, and lose it to the unmitigated predation of the reactionary right. Only then, when they have nothing to lose, will working people be ready for revolution under the banner of the 'further left'. This provides such people still another reason to oppose and demolish center left parties, as these do mitigate the suffering the right would impose on working people, and so are the chief force in balking revolution. These elements view an initial triumph of the reactionary right as an essential step in their own program to achieve revolution, and so are actually quite pleased by the reactionary right achieving political success at the expense of center-left parties.
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thucythucy
(8,847 posts)the German Communist Party--in the late 1920s and early 1930s. They labeled the less radical Social Democrats "Social Fascists" and actually aligned themselves with the Nazis to bring down the Weimar Republic. The ascendance of Hitler they said would be "s temporary aberration" which would be followed by the inevitable triumph of the proletariat (meaning themselves). And we all know how that worked out.
Susan Sarandon's infamous quote--that a Trump presidency would bring about an immediate revolution--conforms precisely to this deluded line of reasoning.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(23,862 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(309,543 posts)What did you spend all the money on?

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)Some guys have all the luck
Some guys have all the pain
Some guys get all the breaks
Some guys do nothing but complain
....as for me...I'm not complaining.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Bernie chose her as a slap in the face to the Democrats... and she's using every possible opportunity to do exactly that.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vercetti2021
(10,443 posts)Refusal to vote and whining like spoiled children. Maybe if his base voted then things would have been different. All they do is moan on Twitter.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,581 posts)didn't resonate. She is quite the simpleton.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden