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Rhiannon12866

(228,999 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 11:30 PM Feb 23

Canadian PM offers BRUTAL RESPONSE to Trump on Ukraine - Meidas Touch



Canada PM Justin Trudeau delivered a brutal response to Donald Trump over abandoning Ukraine and holding meetings with the Russian delegation. Dina Doll reacts. Produced by Francis Maxwell. - 02/23/2025.
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Rhiannon12866

(228,999 posts)
2. Thanks, I suspected as much considering this came from the liar-in-chief
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 02:19 AM
Monday

Since when have we elected a POTUS who does nothing but lie to the American people?? When President Carter took office, he promised to always tell the truth - and the media checked every statement he made for any hint of untruth. So what changed??

Jarqui

(10,586 posts)
3. He lies so much and repeatedly, it is hard to keep up
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 02:32 AM
Monday

Zelensky has offered to step down in exchange for peace of Ukraine becoming part of NATO

Zelenskyy says he's ready to step down if it means peace for Ukraine
Ukraine's president told ABC News that security guarantees are his priority.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/zelenskyy-ready-step-down-if-peace-ukraine/story?id=119097480

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-fact-sheet-february-21-2025
Ukrainian law prohibits holding elections in wartime (unlike the US Constitution, which requires it).

Ukraine's Constitution prevents the Ukrainian government from holding elections or amending the constitution in times of martial law.[6]

Russia triggered Ukraine's martial law provisions when it launched its illegal invasion of Ukraine.

The Ukrainian government cannot constitutionally suspend martial law while Russia continues to attack Ukraine.

Ukrainian opposition politicians, including those who have historically run against Zelensky, have stated that holding elections under martial law would be both illegal and immoral.
[7]


That fact sheet refutes many of Trump's lies

Rhiannon12866

(228,999 posts)
4. Thanks! And it would be insane for him to step down in the middle of a war. FDR certainly didn't.
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 02:37 AM
Monday

And Zelenskyy has been a heroic leader who Ukraine needs now more than ever!

Jarqui

(10,586 posts)
5. I could not quickly find an earlier article quickly that had a poll of Ukraine
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 03:01 AM
Monday

showing support for martial law suspending its elections.
Unlike Trump, Zelensky's approval ratings are not under water.
He's not a dictator.

Europe has roughly matched the US support for Ukraine.
To lose US support is probably devastating.
The rest of the free world needs to step up or other countries like Poland or Finland are next.

As well, Musk had been letting Ukraine use Starlink to defend itself.
If Musk stops that or allows Russia to use Starlink to go after Ukraine, as he probably will, that too could be devastating.

Trump and Putin need to be stopped now

Rhiannon12866

(228,999 posts)
6. I certainly agree, this lying failed businessman is changing the world order
Mon Feb 24, 2025, 03:39 AM
Monday

And not just the U.S. government, but the American people have supported Ukraine since they were first attacked. Changing U.S. policy is insane at this late date. But TFG and Musk are also attacking this country and the American people as well, so this should come as no surprise. I'm grateful to hear that Europe is stepping up, but we also know that TFG is abandoning our long time allies and embracing our long time adversaries. There must be a legal way to get rid of Musk, but TFG is a different story. The justice system has let us down, he should be behind bars for his crimes against this country - and he certainly was unqualified to run for any public office, but both he and anyone who voted for him are abandoning the Constitution. We fought a war for independence 249 years ago, it's tough to believe that we're finding ourselves at the mercy of an absolute ruler again. And as much as this devastates the American people, I keep thinking of what Presidents Biden and Zelenskyy are experiencing now.

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