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Redleg

(6,354 posts)
17. Hindsight is 20/20
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 02:26 PM
Dec 2024

This is a good example of the hindsight bias. Perhaps these assholes have forgotten a few facts.
1. This version of COVID was new and could be lethal.
2. Covid-19 spread very fast.
3. We had incomplete information on the virus including how to prevent or reduce infection and how to treat infection.
4. Our health care administration decided to quickly recommend measures that had been used successfully in the past- namely masking and social distancing combined with hygiene measures. These are fairly innocuous precautions to take.
5. They ultimately recommended closing schools and some businesses but that was left to the local authorities to determine.
6. While it is true that young people were less likely to become seriously ill from the virus, they could still transmit the virus to other people with greater risk of serious illness or death. Furthermore, the teachers at these schools were likely at greater risk than the kids.
7. At least one million Americans died from Covid-19 related causes. The excess death rate suggest that many more died. Plus many Americans are still dealing with long-Covid symptoms.

The key point is that the situation was evolving rapidly and with dire consequences. The experts had imperfect and incomplete information about the virus and thus made recommendations that favored public health over personal preferences.

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At the time I was working in a huge urban school system. Scrivener7 Dec 2024 #1
EXactly. That guy is a moron. Sounds like he listens to RFK jr. too much. brush Dec 2024 #52
Wonder what his thoughts are on home schooling. nt in2herbs Dec 2024 #60
My nephews and nieces stayed home as I did. Their moms and dads were glad riversedge Dec 2024 #77
Yep. I have friends who are teachers and have/had young families at home. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2024 #79
I am not a teacher. I worked with the kids in a medical capacity, Scrivener7 Dec 4 #89
He might be right about the educational outcomes, LakeVermilion Dec 2024 #2
Fewer parents and grandparents to take of those school kids too Sanity Claws Dec 2024 #10
He was speaking in terms of educational outcomes ClimateHawk Dec 2024 #35
It did. Kids just disappeared afterward. LeftInTX Dec 2024 #54
He's a moron. Kids are resilient. So what if they graduate a year later. brush Dec 2024 #58
They didn't hold them back a year, they just promoted them to the next grade whether they learned the material or not. MichMan Dec 2024 #68
My point was there should've been nationwide shutdowns... brush Dec 2024 #70
Any state governor could have acted as you say without the Federal governments permission. MichMan Dec 2024 #73
Such a policy should've come from the federal government, not state of local entities... brush Dec 2024 #74
Does the Federal government have the authority to shut down schools in 50 states? MichMan Dec 2024 #80
The pandemic was a dire, national emergency. A competent president... brush Dec 2024 #83
and how does suddenly becoming an orphan affect test scores? DBoon Dec 2024 #62
Hard to accumulate any test scores from dead kids and dead teachers Hekate Dec 2024 #75
Also dead kids Rebl2 Dec 2024 #66
Kidless, so I really don't know. Dennis Donovan Dec 2024 #3
I'm childless too ClimateHawk Dec 2024 #39
I didn't keep my kids home. Shell_Seas Dec 2024 #4
Once Abbott is gone... rasputin1952 Dec 2024 #45
I just read that someone posted an OP Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2024 #5
For people who bitch about clickbait, some DU'ers are mighty fond of it. Especially trolls? usonian Dec 2024 #15
Are you OK? ClimateHawk Dec 2024 #32
Something occurred to me Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2024 #36
Lol yup😹 Meowmee Dec 2024 #37
As it turns out, I was not being alone in being bored enough to click on the title. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2024 #38
I changed the title ClimateHawk Dec 2024 #44
I am happy for you and your readers. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2024 #53
Damn, I missed it Polybius Dec 2024 #78
"Just heard someone say this". If signed in, click on 'Info' at lower left of original post, then 'Show all' nt DontBelieveEastisEas Dec 2024 #88
I would say that is a very ignorant or delusional assessment of American history. RockRaven Dec 2024 #6
If I were part of that conversation, my question to this person would be: LuckyCharms Dec 2024 #7
I think the only thing they should have done is kept kids jimfields33 Dec 2024 #27
My response would be, How many lives were saved! MacKasey Dec 2024 #8
I can see his point from his 'teacher' point of view... Think. Again. Dec 2024 #9
My wife is a college Professor.... Happy Hoosier Dec 2024 #11
I have noticed some of this too Redleg Dec 2024 #19
I agree... that's why I said these kids have PTSD. Happy Hoosier Dec 2024 #21
When you add in the possibility... rasputin1952 Dec 2024 #47
Yes, it ain't "Morning in America" Redleg Dec 5 #91
Good points. Redleg Dec 5 #90
It could be deepening effects of social media coccooning, perhaps much more so than Covid Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2024 #42
Good points about social media. Redleg Dec 5 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author haele Dec 2024 #49
COVID PTSD is a real situation we all have in one degree or another. haele Dec 2024 #55
Well, with the return of the orange man Bettie Dec 2024 #12
Don't think we did everything right with Covid, but we did the right things knowing what we knew then and Silent Type Dec 2024 #13
There are three teachers in my immediate family... MiHale Dec 2024 #14
Tells me that these stupid bastards didn't learn a lesson of COVID. bluestarone Dec 2024 #16
Hindsight is 20/20 Redleg Dec 2024 #17
Four kids here DeepWinter Dec 2024 #18
Hindsight is 20/20 Johnny2X2X Dec 2024 #20
The decision to close schools was hard LogDog75 Dec 2024 #22
I think authorities did the best they could phylny Dec 2024 #23
The kids might have survived Covid, but their parents and grandparents...not so much. Baitball Blogger Dec 2024 #24
there's no doubt it hurt educational outcomes maxsolomon Dec 2024 #25
I agree about the educational impacts ClimateHawk Dec 2024 #40
I missed 30 days of school one year Farmer-Rick Dec 2024 #65
When schools were closed, we didn't know how to reduce or prevent the spread of COVID-19 Trekologer Dec 2024 #26
Say what you will about Cuomo, but he created a rational plan so we in NY Scrivener7 Dec 2024 #61
We are inclined to think in dichotomies - where there is a right and a wrong side to any decision bhikkhu Dec 2024 #28
How many more people would have died?? unblock Dec 2024 #29
If they had gotten Covid they would have been Demobrat Dec 2024 #30
Wasn't the goal of the closures to slow down the soread of Covid and keep our hospitals open? dem4decades Dec 2024 #31
The recons want to murder people. Let them murder each other. onecaliberal Dec 2024 #33
Children can recover from a lapse in their education. The greater need was to slow the spread of COVID. patphil Dec 2024 #34
Geography matters in this argument Sundance1220 Dec 2024 #41
Kids were big COVID spreaders. It was best Emile Dec 2024 #43
Worse than voting for Trump? Twice? Iggo Dec 2024 #46
Yes It was necessary but it was bad GusBob Dec 2024 #48
Another factor, which teachers had told me GusBob Dec 2024 #59
I was teaching high school special ed during COVID indigovalley Dec 2024 #50
We all would have preferred not to have a pandemic. yardwork Dec 2024 #51
The pandemic was the orange psycho's worst crime Meowmee Dec 2024 #56
Oz made some comment about the death rate of children if they kept school going. He deleted it. keithbvadu2 Dec 2024 #57
We saved a good number of students and their family by closing the schools LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2024 #63
It's not simple is it? Quantitative vs Qualitative and we're still in the middle of the fallout, so Maru Kitteh Dec 2024 #64
Keeping kids at home during The Pandemic most likely no_hypocrisy Dec 2024 #67
"ClimateHawk" executes a successful troll. 617Blue Dec 2024 #69
How does reporting what I hear/see in my red area make me a "troll"? ClimateHawk Dec 2024 #71
Me being dead would have greatly affected Johonny Dec 2024 #72
I believe it was the responsible thing to do. La Coliniere Dec 2024 #76
Interesting, considering pushes (by some) to home-school kids, and to subsidize that. Drum Dec 2024 #81
We homeschooled for a year - TBF Dec 2024 #82
Kids did change after the pandemic kimbutgar Dec 2024 #84
My kid did very well, but some did not JCMach1 Dec 2024 #85
CACA. My kids did fine because I made sure they kept up with their work. harumph Dec 2024 #86
Some suggestions for the teacher you mentioned . . . . hatrack Dec 2024 #87
It was definitely hard on my sons, Crunchy Frog Dec 5 #93
It was a very tough call Algernon Moncrieff Dec 5 #94
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