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Johnny2X2X

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20. Hindsight is 20/20

Tue Dec 3, 2024, 02:35 PM

Dec 3

That's what gets lost, in the moment, our scientists were dealing with a novel virus that they knew next to nothing about. Sure, it became apparent it might not effect kids as frequently or severly as older adults, but who was going to make that call when we weren;t really all that sure about anything yet?

And social distancing for kids still helped prevent its spread significantly and saved lives.

Can you imagine if someone in authority had said, "OK, we know kids are mostly safe, they need to be in school", but then months later they realized that it was just slower in kid, but was 10 times more deadly? That person would literally be in prison or dead right now.

We didn't know a ton about it, we did what we thought was best at the time and we would have done it again. We did a ton wrong for the pandemic, but being too cautiouis about our children was definitely not one of those wrong things.

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Just overheard a conversation from a teacher on school closings during the pandemic [View all] ClimateHawk Dec 3 OP

At the time I was working in a huge urban school system. Scrivener7 Dec 3 #1

EXactly. That guy is a moron. Sounds like he listens to RFK jr. too much. brush Dec 3 #52

Wonder what his thoughts are on home schooling. nt in2herbs Dec 3 #60

My nephews and nieces stayed home as I did. Their moms and dads were glad riversedge Dec 3 #77

Yep. I have friends who are teachers and have/had young families at home. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 3 #79

I am not a teacher. I worked with the kids in a medical capacity, Scrivener7 Dec 4 #89

He might be right about the educational outcomes, LakeVermilion Dec 3 #2

Fewer parents and grandparents to take of those school kids too Sanity Claws Dec 3 #10

He was speaking in terms of educational outcomes ClimateHawk Dec 3 #35

It did. Kids just disappeared afterward. LeftInTX Dec 3 #54

He's a moron. Kids are resilient. So what if they graduate a year later. brush Dec 3 #58

They didn't hold them back a year, they just promoted them to the next grade whether they learned the material or not. MichMan Dec 3 #68

My point was there should've been nationwide shutdowns... brush Dec 3 #70

Any state governor could have acted as you say without the Federal governments permission. MichMan Dec 3 #73

Such a policy should've come from the federal government, not state of local entities... brush Dec 3 #74

Does the Federal government have the authority to shut down schools in 50 states? MichMan Dec 3 #80

The pandemic was a dire, national emergency. A competent president... brush Dec 3 #83

and how does suddenly becoming an orphan affect test scores? DBoon Dec 3 #62

Hard to accumulate any test scores from dead kids and dead teachers Hekate Dec 3 #75

Also dead kids Rebl2 Dec 3 #66

Kidless, so I really don't know. Dennis Donovan Dec 3 #3

I'm childless too ClimateHawk Dec 3 #39

I didn't keep my kids home. Shell_Seas Dec 3 #4

Once Abbott is gone... rasputin1952 Dec 3 #45

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For people who bitch about clickbait, some DU'ers are mighty fond of it. Especially trolls? usonian Dec 3 #15

Are you OK? ClimateHawk Dec 3 #32

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As it turns out, I was not being alone in being bored enough to click on the title. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 3 #38

I changed the title ClimateHawk Dec 3 #44

I am happy for you and your readers. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 3 #53

Damn, I missed it Polybius Dec 3 #78

"Just heard someone say this". If signed in, click on 'Info' at lower left of original post, then 'Show all' nt DontBelieveEastisEas Dec 3 #88

I would say that is a very ignorant or delusional assessment of American history. RockRaven Dec 3 #6

If I were part of that conversation, my question to this person would be: LuckyCharms Dec 3 #7

I think the only thing they should have done is kept kids jimfields33 Dec 3 #27

My response would be, How many lives were saved! MacKasey Dec 3 #8

I can see his point from his 'teacher' point of view... Think. Again. Dec 3 #9

My wife is a college Professor.... Happy Hoosier Dec 3 #11

I have noticed some of this too Redleg Dec 3 #19

I agree... that's why I said these kids have PTSD. Happy Hoosier Dec 3 #21

When you add in the possibility... rasputin1952 Dec 3 #47

Yes, it ain't "Morning in America" Redleg Dec 5 #91

Good points. Redleg Dec 5 #90

It could be deepening effects of social media coccooning, perhaps much more so than Covid Bernardo de La Paz Dec 3 #42

Good points about social media. Redleg Dec 5 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author haele Dec 3 #49

COVID PTSD is a real situation we all have in one degree or another. haele Dec 3 #55

Well, with the return of the orange man Bettie Dec 3 #12

Don't think we did everything right with Covid, but we did the right things knowing what we knew then and Silent Type Dec 3 #13

There are three teachers in my immediate family... MiHale Dec 3 #14

Tells me that these stupid bastards didn't learn a lesson of COVID. bluestarone Dec 3 #16

Hindsight is 20/20 Redleg Dec 3 #17

Four kids here DeepWinter Dec 3 #18

Hindsight is 20/20 Johnny2X2X Dec 3 #20

The decision to close schools was hard LogDog75 Dec 3 #22

I think authorities did the best they could phylny Dec 3 #23

The kids might have survived Covid, but their parents and grandparents...not so much. Baitball Blogger Dec 3 #24

there's no doubt it hurt educational outcomes maxsolomon Dec 3 #25

I agree about the educational impacts ClimateHawk Dec 3 #40

I missed 30 days of school one year Farmer-Rick Dec 3 #65

When schools were closed, we didn't know how to reduce or prevent the spread of COVID-19 Trekologer Dec 3 #26

Say what you will about Cuomo, but he created a rational plan so we in NY Scrivener7 Dec 3 #61

We are inclined to think in dichotomies - where there is a right and a wrong side to any decision bhikkhu Dec 3 #28

How many more people would have died?? unblock Dec 3 #29

If they had gotten Covid they would have been Demobrat Dec 3 #30

Wasn't the goal of the closures to slow down the soread of Covid and keep our hospitals open? dem4decades Dec 3 #31

The recons want to murder people. Let them murder each other. onecaliberal Dec 3 #33

Children can recover from a lapse in their education. The greater need was to slow the spread of COVID. patphil Dec 3 #34

Geography matters in this argument Sundance1220 Dec 3 #41

Kids were big COVID spreaders. It was best Emile Dec 3 #43

Worse than voting for Trump? Twice? Iggo Dec 3 #46

Yes It was necessary but it was bad GusBob Dec 3 #48

Another factor, which teachers had told me GusBob Dec 3 #59

I was teaching high school special ed during COVID indigovalley Dec 3 #50

We all would have preferred not to have a pandemic. yardwork Dec 3 #51

The pandemic was the orange psycho's worst crime Meowmee Dec 3 #56

Oz made some comment about the death rate of children if they kept school going. He deleted it. keithbvadu2 Dec 3 #57

We saved a good number of students and their family by closing the schools LetMyPeopleVote Dec 3 #63

It's not simple is it? Quantitative vs Qualitative and we're still in the middle of the fallout, so Maru Kitteh Dec 3 #64

Keeping kids at home during The Pandemic most likely no_hypocrisy Dec 3 #67

"ClimateHawk" executes a successful troll. 617Blue Dec 3 #69

How does reporting what I hear/see in my red area make me a "troll"? ClimateHawk Dec 3 #71

Me being dead would have greatly affected Johonny Dec 3 #72

I believe it was the responsible thing to do. La Coliniere Dec 3 #76

Interesting, considering pushes (by some) to home-school kids, and to subsidize that. Drum Dec 3 #81

We homeschooled for a year - TBF Dec 3 #82

Kids did change after the pandemic kimbutgar Dec 3 #84

My kid did very well, but some did not JCMach1 Dec 3 #85

CACA. My kids did fine because I made sure they kept up with their work. harumph Dec 3 #86

Some suggestions for the teacher you mentioned . . . . hatrack Dec 3 #87

It was definitely hard on my sons, Crunchy Frog Dec 5 #93

It was a very tough call Algernon Moncrieff Dec 5 #94