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In It to Win It

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Wed Dec 4, 2024, 04:08 PM Dec 2024

I Watched the Democratic Collapse in Florida. I Fear It's Happening Nationally. [View all]

The Bulwark






IT IS TIME TO STOP talking about 2024.

Don’t get me wrong, I have a lot of opinions about the campaign and the years leading up to it. But that isn’t the conversation Democrats need to be having. The real conversation is how my party went from the broadest electoral mandate of the previous twenty-five years, with the biggest majority in the Senate in the previous thirty years, to a shell of itself—a political organization that can hardly be classified as a national entity anymore.

There are a lot of metrics we can cite for this, but this may be the most telling: Of Barack Obama’s 332 electoral votes in 2012, 53 of them came from states that aren’t really in play anymore: Florida, Ohio, and Iowa.

All three states have gone Republican three elections in a row. Prior to 2012, Iowa had gone Democratic in five of the previous six presidential elections, Ohio had gone to Democrats in four of six, and Florida in three of six (though it probably was four out of six had my state known how to count ballots).

That’s not just a canary in a coalmine. It is a massive boulder landing in front of you on the only road home.

Even worse, my party has largely avoided reckoning with how big that boulder is.
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I would think it seems globally as well. nt woodsprite Dec 2024 #1
RSO rso Dec 2024 #2
You can count on it that they are going to try. JohnSJ Dec 2024 #3
Money is speech. War is peace. 2+2 IS 5. Moostache Dec 2024 #4
you awe singing my song, my and my gospel. And you are so correct about the phones msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #16
I think the CIA/FBI need to up their game. travelingthrulife Dec 2024 #23
It appears to be happening worldwide. ananda Dec 2024 #5
A nice start might be if the Party starts listening to its own voters... PeaceWave Dec 2024 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #11
Listening to all its voters Retrograde Dec 2024 #14
Oh bullshit. W_HAMILTON Dec 2024 #20
What you are talking about is not the base. In fact they are the total opposite JI7 Dec 2024 #22
There would have been no democratic collapse in Florida speak easy Dec 2024 #7
yeah but back then Virginia was red and now its purple/blue MadameButterfly Dec 2024 #8
I think this is a deep part of the problem Dave says Dec 2024 #15
True Viginia has become a blue/purple State standingtall Dec 2024 #17
Basically, we have to stop losing working class men MadameButterfly Dec 2024 #18
Agree with most of this standingtall Dec 2024 #9
Well, for Oklahoma, the Democratic Party was competitive in the 2000s in state government In It to Win It Dec 2024 #10
Gosh, I wonder which party benfits from a multi-spectrum 24/7/365 propaganda apparatus... JHB Dec 2024 #12
Democrats Can Survive Dlpger61 Dec 2024 #13
they are 2 down in the House. Did great in NC etc etc. Let's not do this. themaguffin Dec 2024 #19
Florida became more red becsuse A LOT of Republicans from other states JI7 Dec 2024 #21
The red shift in Florida began with the Mariel boatlift. DavidDvorkin Dec 2024 #24
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