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Beastly Boy

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8. What happens when only certain criticism of Israel is deemed antisemitic, and others are not?

Wed Dec 4, 2024, 09:43 PM

Dec 4

For Instance, what if a certain NGO were to say ""Since its establishment in 1948, Israel has pursued an explicit policy of establishing and maintaining a Jewish demographic hegemony and maximizing its control over land to benefit Jewish Israelis," while disregarding the essentially multicultural permissive nature of Israel and discounting that Israel's control over land (with no distinction to what land the statement refers) equally benefits all Israelis, Jewish or not, and some control of land benefits Israel's minorities more than it does the Jewish majority?

Imagine Amnesty accusing France of committing genocide on the basis of "an explicit policy of establishing and maintaining a French demographic hegemony and maximizing its control over land to benefit the Catholic citizens of France"

Wouldn't that be ridiculous?

Didn't stop Amnesty from getting ridiculous with accusations against Israel, did it?

Would you prefer "patently biased" to "antisemitic"?

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Amnesty International Investigation Concludes Israel Is Committing Genocide [View all] al bupp Dec 4 OP

Israel's Claims Are 'Not Credible' al bupp Dec 4 #1

Then, Beastly Boy Dec 5 #22

Amnesty Israel has no credibility on the topic of genocide in Gaza al bupp Dec 11 #23

Daniel Brodsky has no credibility Beastly Boy Dec 12 #24

Why shouldn't he advocate for Palestinians? al bupp Dec 12 #25

He should if he wants to. Beastly Boy Dec 12 #26

If that's true al bupp Dec 12 #27

If what you say were true, then Beastly Boy Dec 13 #29

Your comparison of the report to the Nuremburg trials is spurious at best and ridiculous on its face al bupp Dec 13 #32

It is Daniel Brodsky who is calling himself partial, not me. Beastly Boy Dec 13 #33

Maybe it's "rant" to you al bupp Dec 14 #37

Actually, al bupp, Amnesty International has a long and sordid history of demonizing Israel. madaboutharry Dec 4 #2

Amnesty International is a highly credible human rights organization. ColinC Dec 4 #3

Was a highly credible organization. That was last century. Beastly Boy Dec 4 #7

Just because you don't like what they say doesn't suddenly change their credibility ColinC Dec 5 #16

It's not what I like. It's what they say and how they say it. Beastly Boy Dec 5 #19

Here we go peregrinus Dec 4 #4

When all criticism of Israel is deemed antisemitic al bupp Dec 4 #5

What happens when only certain criticism of Israel is deemed antisemitic, and others are not? Beastly Boy Dec 4 #8

I think AM would make similar accusations against any country al bupp Dec 4 #9

I am not holding my breath waiting for Amnesty to hurl an analogous accusation against any other country. Beastly Boy Dec 4 #10

Since the UK and US give so much to Israel al bupp Dec 5 #15

Another false equivalency, as expected Beastly Boy Dec 5 #20

Let's see... al bupp Dec 12 #28

HRW cites jack shit. It offers only the opinions and interpretations that support their predetermined conclusions Beastly Boy Dec 13 #30

No, HRW offers cited facts al bupp Dec 13 #31

A link to a source with no content does not constitute a citation of facts. Nor does it constitute a fact. Beastly Boy Dec 13 #34

Just one source of many that HRW does not control al bupp Dec 14 #36

Actually Avalon Sparks Dec 4 #11

One can easily debunk AJC first point. Eko Dec 5 #13

Amnesty International has hated Israel for years, decades DeepWinter Dec 5 #21

Newsflash iemanja Dec 14 #41

Duh! malaise Dec 4 #6

If Israel wanted to commit genocide... ZRB Dec 5 #12

Sorry, it's ethnic cleansing bordering in genocide Trish6521 Dec 5 #17

What Israel could have just nuked Gaza, is that what you're saying? al bupp Dec 14 #39

And the West Bank and Syria? iemanja Dec 14 #42

Durned Humanitarian organizations keep on opposing war crimes and genocide. Ping Tung Dec 5 #14

Good David__77 Dec 5 #18

While I think that AI's statements are probably valid Crunchy Frog Dec 13 #35

AI is ignoring genocidal acts that Russia is carrying out in Ukraine, hmm al bupp Dec 14 #38

Not a word about genocidal intent or rhetoric. Crunchy Frog Dec 14 #40

Ok, let's dig into this a bit al bupp Dec 14 #43