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Tommy Carcetti

(43,598 posts)
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:32 AM Tuesday

That old Cassandra feeling is back again. [View all]

In 2016, after Trump first won, there were a lot of people insisting, "Don't worry. Trump won't be as extreme a President as he was a candidate. He was probably just saying those things to placate his base to get elected. Now that he'll be President, he'll pivot and be more of a moderate figure. He'll use his business skills to negotiate deals with Democrats in Congress and he'll get some meaningful things done."

I personally knew this was not going to happen, and said so at the time.

Trump took office, and he certainly did not pivot. He was just as extreme and divisive a President as he was a candidate. And I knew the "dealmaker" thing was bullshit from the get-go, because I knew Trump was in fact a very shitty and incompetent businessman and the whole "Art of the Deal" thing was a superficial gimmick. He doesn't know how to get along with other people who think differently than him, and he'll just want to tear them down instead.

Flash forward to 2020 after Trump lost the election. I remember hearing a lot of, "Trump will eventually concede his loss, albeit reluctantly, and just slink back to Mar-a-Lago. But then he'll get to relish playing 'Kingmaker' in helping to choose other Republicans for the next round of elections."

Once again, I knew the "kingmaker" thing would never, ever happen. Trump's ego would not allow him to cede the spotlight to others, even if they appeared to have his blessing. And he would never, ever admit to losing because he's incapable of doing that. He'll incite the worst, most violent of his supporters who are willing to act in his name because those are the ones who pay him homage and are truly loyal to him where others are not.

And lo and behold, there was no concession or peaceful transfer of power. And we had January 6th. And Trump was only interested in crowning himself as his own successor and running again.

Now we are in 2024. I've heard a lot of, "Don't take the whole 'retribution' talk seriously. He's not actually going to go after his opponents for real. That's just Trump being Trump. And we survived his last term, so I'm sure we'll be fine again this go around. Maybe he's learned more. Maybe he'll stand up against Putin this time around and defend Ukraine because he'll see Zelensky as strong and determined, and doesn't he like strong leaders?"

None of that is going to happen. He's dead serious about wanting to go after his opponents, and if he gets a troglodyte like Kash Patel into the FBI, he's going to try to make that happen. He hasn't learned a thing about being a good leader. We barely survived his last term only because of a House majority in the second half and guardrails within the White House. There are no guardrails this time, only sworn loyalists. And he's not going to stand up to Putin or other authoritarians. The only "strong" leaders Trump admires are the authoritarian types. He couldn't care less about strong, principled democratic minded leaders such as Zelensky and he'd just as well see them lose.

I hate to sound so pessimistic this morning but I've seen all the same Pollyannaish optimism about Trump dissolve like sugar in tea as reality sets in. Time and time and time again.

He will not get better. He will only try to make things better for himself, and through that, worse for the rest of us.

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+1, I totally agree. Dave Bowman Tuesday #1
I was actually pretty shocked there was mucifer Tuesday #2
It makes for bad TV carpetbagger Tuesday #13
Well,... those hurricaines were about to get nuked,... magicarpet Tuesday #39
Yes The Wandering Harper Tuesday #3
K&R 2naSalit Tuesday #4
Unfortunately, I agree with you. My slender hope bronxiteforever Tuesday #5
I get hoping time steps in lonely bird Tuesday #17
Yeah, time always wins in the end. At least so far anyway. But as an almost 74 year old in excellent KPN Tuesday #33
Well for the New Year, my wish is that you and I bronxiteforever Tuesday #48
Good plan! Let's do it! KPN Tuesday #58
Same dreams and I am 88. That being said, Vance scares the hell out of me. justhanginon Tuesday #63
He should! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #68
Almost 72 and worried about the exact same thing that worries you, my friend. calimary Tuesday #60
The only thing Trump is good at ....... SupportSanity Tuesday #62
IF there is an election in 2028 and IF Democrats manage to win in spite of all the CousinIT Tuesday #6
Agreed...it's going to be a nightmare Prairie Gates Tuesday #7
I read parts of a NYT article this morning on an interview with Trump voters. Lonestarblue Tuesday #12
The fools & the cowards just project onto Trump what they desperately need to believe. They don't do reality. Attilatheblond Tuesday #16
Agreed lonely bird Tuesday #18
I think it's more willfull ignorance allowing anger turned to be turned inward through propaganda. "Enemy within" BS Evolve Dammit Tuesday #49
Plenty of that too. Attilatheblond Tuesday #52
Have these people been living under a rock for the past 8+ years? DeeDeeNY Tuesday #29
Idiots ... nt KPN Tuesday #35
IMO, much of the excuses are BS. They wouldn't vote for Harris if they didn't have that supposed reason DSandra 21 hrs ago #75
Those people are either lacking in the courage to face the realities, or too dim to take responsiblitiy to see further. Attilatheblond Tuesday #14
Me too ... over 4 decades. Fortunately or maybe unfortunately, there are many of us KPN Tuesday #37
In my old age, I am leaning toward 'hopeless' Attilatheblond Tuesday #45
Count me in the group who has seen this huge partisan divide would lead us to disaster. summer_in_TX Yesterday #73
Ah, you have far and broad sight and are correct on all your points Attilatheblond 18 hrs ago #76
Excellent observations. summer_in_TX 2 hrs ago #82
He's going to war somewhere Bobstandard Tuesday #8
Sending Kari Lake to Mexico is a good way to start a war with that nation. Attilatheblond Tuesday #24
Hilarious. And too true. nt Bobstandard Tuesday #34
I studied Gallows Humor in school Attilatheblond Tuesday #44
But was it your major?? Evolve Dammit Tuesday #50
No, but it is a genetric trait in my family Attilatheblond Tuesday #53
Ha! I had co-workers and friends that were gifted and talented at it. Evolve Dammit Tuesday #57
Just pointing out...a post of mine from June 2020: Tommy Carcetti Tuesday #9
And from October 2020 Tommy Carcetti Tuesday #10
Yes, you absolutely nailed it, both times FakeNoose Tuesday #27
Yikes! Prescient. In retrospect, that scenario would absolutely have been the best case minus, KPN Tuesday #38
Lucy and the football. He is incapable of change. Evolve Dammit Tuesday #11
This is going to get ugly, and maybe beyond anything we have seen since the 1860s. mackdaddy Tuesday #15
It's not just Trump. It's Elon Musk energizing Trump's bad decisions. Baitball Blogger Tuesday #19
Careful! This seems like a manifesto!! Coventina Tuesday #20
Pollyanna was never about saying things that are not true MadameButterfly Tuesday #21
Add another to the ones who mwmisses4289 Tuesday #22
I've Had People Tell Me Not To Panic Deep State Witch Tuesday #23
Did those people conveniently forget BumRushDaShow Tuesday #32
The very rich want $ to go into the US Treasury, just not any of THIER money. That means a big national sales tax Attilatheblond Tuesday #40
Cassandra wasn't believed. You are Maeve Tuesday #25
All that and bird flu trying to mutate to hit humans, monkey pox, oh, and Solar Maximum Attilatheblond Tuesday #43
Thank you, well said wendyb-NC Tuesday #26
They won't leave power in 2029. They will have to be evicted. bucolic_frolic Tuesday #28
Trump learns the wrong lessons bmichaelh Tuesday #30
So we're assuming Trump learns. SupportSanity 9 hrs ago #79
Nailed it. nt GiqueCee Tuesday #31
Trump is incapable of being a "good leader". YodaMom2 Tuesday #36
Spot on summation. 3catwoman3 Yesterday #74
Yes of course. Susan Calvin Tuesday #41
Common sense isn't common anymore SupportSanity 9 hrs ago #78
I don't understand his supporters having second thoughts TexasBushwhacker Tuesday #42
You are exactly correct. camartinwv Tuesday #46
It's simple. What they say they'll do, they won't... malthaussen Tuesday #47
Watch what they do, not what they say. SupportSanity 9 hrs ago #77
Americans live with perpetual hope Tweedy Tuesday #51
My main recollection was the constant: 'Give Trump a chance' after 2016 peggysue2 Tuesday #54
Egos and natural disasters may do him in SARose Tuesday #55
Then, My Friend... DAngelo136 Tuesday #56
I've never had any such illusions about Donnie Blue_Tires Tuesday #59
We told them the leopards would eat their faces off. sakabatou Tuesday #61
sucks doesn't it ? proud patriot Tuesday #64
Yep. He wouldn't be nominating Kash Patel otherwise. This is a guy who would love nothing more than to punish those Karasu Tuesday #65
Dementia J lies about everything, so I have no idea what he'll do Hassler Tuesday #66
Agreed, Tommy Carcetti spanone Tuesday #67
If we don't stop staring at the trump trainwreck, we'll never win in 2028. ancianita Tuesday #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Tuesday #70
Agree Meowmee Tuesday #71
I agree, however... RainCaster Tuesday #72
Yep. I remember saying that with him, every day will be worse than the last. W_HAMILTON 9 hrs ago #80
And I hate to say it,.our leadership seems clueless and out of touch JCMach1 8 hrs ago #81
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