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LaMouffette

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Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:22 AM 14 hrs ago

I think the reason that many working-class men voted for Rump is because they love tough guys and they were fooled [View all]

by Rump's fake tough-guy-wildly-successful-businessman persona that he uses to hide his real weakness, insecurity, and business failures.

Rump is the rich "tough guy" that these men wish they could be themselves. And that's why Rump fawns over dictators like Putin, who is an actual obscenely rich tough guy. Putin is the tough guy that Rump wishes he could be.

I read a really interesting book called You Just Don't Understand, about the differences in the way men and women communicate and how the way they interact with people. Generally, speaking, of course.

According to this book, men (in general) see the world in terms of hierarchy: Where do I stand? Am I better than that other person? Am I tougher than them? Do I make more or less money than them? As a result, men engage in self-aggrandizing talk and behavior, like talking about their achievements and about the new expensive toys they just bought.

Women, on the other hand (in general), see the world in terms of connection: How is the other person feeling? How are they doing? Am I helping them feel good about themselves? As a result, they engage in supportive and nurturing talk and behavior, sometimes even being self-deprecating so that the other person feels better about themself.

So anyway, because of these working-class, low-information male voters, who view the world as a competitive hierarchy and admire and want to be like those who are higher up on the hierarchy than they are, I think our next Democratic presidential candidate needs to be a financially successful bad-ass male who looks, talks, and acts like he could beat the shit out of somebody. Extra points for having served in the military in a combat role. But being a Democrat, he would also be a person of high intelligence and integrity who truly wants to serve his country and help the average American and not make the billionaire class even richer.

I say this only because we need to win over those working-class males who vote "tough guy." I adore and voted for Kamala Harris and I adore and voted for Hillary Clinton, and if I were the queen of the world, bad-ass Kamala Harris or bad-ass Jasmine Crockett would be our next presidential candidate. Even better, Kamala would be our president NOW. But these white males who voted for Rump want a tough-guy father figure (remember the disgusting Trump rally cry, "DADDY'S HOME!"??? There are even T-shirts out there with this emblazoned on them.). And for now, at least, we need to give it to them to get them to stop voting for fascist, fake-strongmen like Trump.

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What about white women Keepthesoulalive 14 hrs ago #1
Religion get the red out 14 hrs ago #2
People in Florida are not very religious but they have no problem with a little demagogue named desantis Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #19
Speaking of which, how come it's always about white kids angst? Never about black children and their distress. cbabe 12 hrs ago #28
Because it resonates with racist Keepthesoulalive 11 hrs ago #55
True. My thought was mostly rhetorical. But I'd sure like to hear it mentioned every time someone mentions cbabe 11 hrs ago #58
America is based on myths and lies Keepthesoulalive 11 hrs ago #63
Should we keep quiet? Or speak out always? That's how we rewrite the story. cbabe 11 hrs ago #65
When you try myth busting Keepthesoulalive 10 hrs ago #68
Most residents of Florida are Christians Mariana 2 hrs ago #96
Cite numbers please Keepthesoulalive 2 hrs ago #98
Over 3,500 gods worshiped by humans since the beginning of time... NotHardly 12 hrs ago #35
Good point. Maybe they also wanted a tough guy for president and didn't realize they were voting for a buffoon. LaMouffette 14 hrs ago #5
He played a businessman on TV Beck23 12 hrs ago #23
Keepthesoulalive ........... Upthevibe 12 hrs ago #40
Exit polls are not the actual results happy feet 11 hrs ago #47
Wait for the Pew validated voter studies to be finished. spooky3 2 hrs ago #95
Just checked AP Reuters and Npr Keepthesoulalive 11 hrs ago #49
Not this one BlueKentuckyGirl 12 hrs ago #41
Don't worry about it Keepthesoulalive 12 hrs ago #42
Yes, but the same rationale applies to all Felon voters Bread and Circuses 5 hrs ago #77
We've had moral majority, freedom fries Keepthesoulalive 5 hrs ago #79
Male voters rso 14 hrs ago #3
I know. I don't get it. But he was their guy, fake tan, lifts in his shoes, obese, "bad-built body," and all. LaMouffette 14 hrs ago #6
Yeah. Another excuse for what is actually bigotry. No one could travelingthrulife 13 hrs ago #8
45 is JustAnotherGen 5 hrs ago #82
I don't know BeerBarrelPolka 14 hrs ago #4
You are absolutely right about the bubble. Even though I live in a red state, I was in my own bubble to such an extent LaMouffette 13 hrs ago #9
Yes BeerBarrelPolka 13 hrs ago #14
I'm new here Elmotime 13 hrs ago #18
Welcome BeerBarrelPolka 13 hrs ago #20
It's DemocratIC. Always has been Arazi 13 hrs ago #21
as I said Elmotime 13 hrs ago #22
Alas Arazi 12 hrs ago #24
agreed. berksdem 12 hrs ago #25
I think it's pretty clear Elmotime 12 hrs ago #27
Stick around BeerBarrelPolka 12 hrs ago #32
I totally get it... berksdem 12 hrs ago #33
I'm not going to apologize for requesting that you use Democratic framing Arazi 12 hrs ago #36
I'm afraid I have to jump in here for a minute. Aristus 11 hrs ago #46
Well said happy feet 11 hrs ago #50
Thank you. Aristus 11 hrs ago #53
The Elmotime JustAnotherGen 5 hrs ago #81
I also mostly read for the same reason. . . . h2ebits 11 hrs ago #44
Heather Cox Richardson DENVERPOPS 11 hrs ago #61
I would love to read your observations. Demobrat 11 hrs ago #51
Just understand JustAnotherGen 5 hrs ago #84
Trump is not tough. He is out of shape, a pervert, racist failure JI7 14 hrs ago #7
I'm with you on the racist part, for sure, but I think Rump created an image of success and toughness that LaMouffette 13 hrs ago #11
Plus, he wears badly-fitting clothes that look like he slept in them. Aristus 11 hrs ago #48
No. Once again, the main driver was white supremacy. ananda 13 hrs ago #10
I agree that racism and misogyny were also major factors. No doubt. But also the tough-guy factor, and Rump's strangely LaMouffette 13 hrs ago #12
Racists and Misogynists are at heart Bullies. haele 9 hrs ago #70
Racism and misogyny 🎯 Arazi 12 hrs ago #31
He is not a tough guy, he is just a bully. nt DURHAM D 13 hrs ago #13
And they love him for it Keepthesoulalive 11 hrs ago #52
They voted for him because they are nazis. Basso8vb 13 hrs ago #15
Trump is the Pillsbury Dough Boy w/orange food coloring, RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 13 hrs ago #16
"Racism is dead." John Roberts said. czarjak 13 hrs ago #17
2028. I hope Mark Cuban runs. Captain Zero 12 hrs ago #26
Evangelical and Born Again Christians... pandr32 12 hrs ago #29
That's true and also because our party, in its values and its governing Walleye 12 hrs ago #30
Harris didn't lose because she lost white men. Self Esteem 12 hrs ago #34
Never has false propaganda Mblaze 11 hrs ago #45
Maybe so but then we've got to figure out how to counter the messaging... Self Esteem 6 hrs ago #72
We know that a significant number of Muslims voted for Trump... keep_left 11 hrs ago #56
It is possible 2024 turns out to be an anomaly election. Self Esteem 6 hrs ago #74
I'm curious, where are you getting the numbers in those polls? keep_left 5 hrs ago #75
They're linked in my posts. Self Esteem 4 hrs ago #88
Duh...should have just subtracted to get the margins. keep_left 3 hrs ago #91
Because of psychological warfare by Russia Farmer-Rick 11 hrs ago #57
Your points are reasonable and I agree with your conclusions, as far as they go FakeNoose 11 hrs ago #60
I can not imagine why ANY DENVERPOPS 11 hrs ago #66
Yes, she did. That one group, especially white men without spooky3 2 hrs ago #93
The next Democratic candidate for president SidneyR 12 hrs ago #37
And wryter2000 12 hrs ago #39
There may never again be "voting" DENVERPOPS 10 hrs ago #67
how exactly are they going to take over voting in blue states? thebigidea 10 hrs ago #69
Well, DENVERPOPS 5 hrs ago #80
I believe there will be open voter intimidation again Arazi 5 hrs ago #86
My solution wryter2000 12 hrs ago #38
I have always thought that Mblaze 12 hrs ago #43
If you want their vote treat them like 4 yr olds yaesu 11 hrs ago #54
Joe in 2020 Jimbo S 11 hrs ago #59
yeah well we are paying for that now Skittles 2 hrs ago #97
The sooner we stop trying to BlueSky3 11 hrs ago #62
Agree GenThePerservering 2 hrs ago #94
Yes Dem4life1234 11 hrs ago #64
Trump did not promise to improve the lives of his voters. He promised to punish the people his voters wanted to hurt. LetMyPeopleVote 7 hrs ago #71
Trump isn't a tough guy, he's a bully. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 6 hrs ago #73
Nope. It's still because they're stupid. flvegan 5 hrs ago #76
Where I'm at today JustAnotherGen 5 hrs ago #78
This argument might have held a little merit in 2016 Blue_Tires 5 hrs ago #83
Thank you JustAnotherGen 5 hrs ago #85
Their mentality is unfathomable n/t ailsagirl 4 hrs ago #87
Maybe. egduj 4 hrs ago #89
They think The Wizard 4 hrs ago #90
I wish people wouldn't refer to Trump as a 'strongman' GenThePerservering 2 hrs ago #92
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