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Arazi

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24. Alas

Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:42 AM

14 hrs ago

You’re on a Democratic discussion board with hard core Democrats here.

Things like Democratic vs Democrat framing matters here whereas in RL most of us probably wouldn’t correct.

And if just pointing that out is too much for you, then perhaps this isn’t the place for you?

I made it clear that it’s my own pet peeve.

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I think the reason that many working-class men voted for Rump is because they love tough guys and they were fooled [View all] LaMouffette 16 hrs ago OP

What about white women Keepthesoulalive 16 hrs ago #1

Religion get the red out 16 hrs ago #2

People in Florida are not very religious but they have no problem with a little demagogue named desantis Keepthesoulalive 15 hrs ago #19

Speaking of which, how come it's always about white kids angst? Never about black children and their distress. cbabe 14 hrs ago #28

Because it resonates with racist Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #55

True. My thought was mostly rhetorical. But I'd sure like to hear it mentioned every time someone mentions cbabe 13 hrs ago #58

America is based on myths and lies Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #63

Should we keep quiet? Or speak out always? That's how we rewrite the story. cbabe 13 hrs ago #65

When you try myth busting Keepthesoulalive 12 hrs ago #68

Most residents of Florida are Christians Mariana 4 hrs ago #96

Cite numbers please Keepthesoulalive 4 hrs ago #98

Over 3,500 gods worshiped by humans since the beginning of time... NotHardly 14 hrs ago #35

Good point. Maybe they also wanted a tough guy for president and didn't realize they were voting for a buffoon. LaMouffette 16 hrs ago #5

He played a businessman on TV Beck23 14 hrs ago #23

Keepthesoulalive ........... Upthevibe 14 hrs ago #40

Exit polls are not the actual results happy feet 13 hrs ago #47

Wait for the Pew validated voter studies to be finished. spooky3 4 hrs ago #95

Just checked AP Reuters and Npr Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #49

Not this one BlueKentuckyGirl 14 hrs ago #41

Don't worry about it Keepthesoulalive 14 hrs ago #42

Yes, but the same rationale applies to all Felon voters Bread and Circuses 7 hrs ago #77

We've had moral majority, freedom fries Keepthesoulalive 7 hrs ago #79

Male voters rso 16 hrs ago #3

I know. I don't get it. But he was their guy, fake tan, lifts in his shoes, obese, "bad-built body," and all. LaMouffette 16 hrs ago #6

Yeah. Another excuse for what is actually bigotry. No one could travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #8

45 is JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #82

I don't know BeerBarrelPolka 16 hrs ago #4

You are absolutely right about the bubble. Even though I live in a red state, I was in my own bubble to such an extent LaMouffette 15 hrs ago #9

Yes BeerBarrelPolka 15 hrs ago #14

I'm new here Elmotime 15 hrs ago #18

Welcome BeerBarrelPolka 15 hrs ago #20

It's DemocratIC. Always has been Arazi 15 hrs ago #21

as I said Elmotime 15 hrs ago #22

Alas Arazi 14 hrs ago #24

agreed. berksdem 14 hrs ago #25

I think it's pretty clear Elmotime 14 hrs ago #27

Stick around BeerBarrelPolka 14 hrs ago #32

I totally get it... berksdem 14 hrs ago #33

I'm not going to apologize for requesting that you use Democratic framing Arazi 14 hrs ago #36

I'm afraid I have to jump in here for a minute. Aristus 13 hrs ago #46

Well said happy feet 13 hrs ago #50

Thank you. Aristus 13 hrs ago #53

The Elmotime JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #81

I also mostly read for the same reason. . . . h2ebits 14 hrs ago #44

Heather Cox Richardson DENVERPOPS 13 hrs ago #61

I would love to read your observations. Demobrat 13 hrs ago #51

Just understand JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #84

Trump is not tough. He is out of shape, a pervert, racist failure JI7 16 hrs ago #7

I'm with you on the racist part, for sure, but I think Rump created an image of success and toughness that LaMouffette 15 hrs ago #11

Plus, he wears badly-fitting clothes that look like he slept in them. Aristus 13 hrs ago #48

No. Once again, the main driver was white supremacy. ananda 15 hrs ago #10

I agree that racism and misogyny were also major factors. No doubt. But also the tough-guy factor, and Rump's strangely LaMouffette 15 hrs ago #12

Racists and Misogynists are at heart Bullies. haele 11 hrs ago #70

Racism and misogyny 🎯 Arazi 14 hrs ago #31

He is not a tough guy, he is just a bully. nt DURHAM D 15 hrs ago #13

And they love him for it Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #52

They voted for him because they are nazis. Basso8vb 15 hrs ago #15

Trump is the Pillsbury Dough Boy w/orange food coloring, RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 15 hrs ago #16

"Racism is dead." John Roberts said. czarjak 15 hrs ago #17

2028. I hope Mark Cuban runs. Captain Zero 14 hrs ago #26

Evangelical and Born Again Christians... pandr32 14 hrs ago #29

That's true and also because our party, in its values and its governing Walleye 14 hrs ago #30

Harris didn't lose because she lost white men. Self Esteem 14 hrs ago #34

Never has false propaganda Mblaze 13 hrs ago #45

Maybe so but then we've got to figure out how to counter the messaging... Self Esteem 8 hrs ago #72

We know that a significant number of Muslims voted for Trump... keep_left 13 hrs ago #56

It is possible 2024 turns out to be an anomaly election. Self Esteem 8 hrs ago #74

I'm curious, where are you getting the numbers in those polls? keep_left 7 hrs ago #75

They're linked in my posts. Self Esteem 6 hrs ago #88

Duh...should have just subtracted to get the margins. keep_left 5 hrs ago #91

Because of psychological warfare by Russia Farmer-Rick 13 hrs ago #57

Your points are reasonable and I agree with your conclusions, as far as they go FakeNoose 13 hrs ago #60

I can not imagine why ANY DENVERPOPS 13 hrs ago #66

Yes, she did. That one group, especially white men without spooky3 4 hrs ago #93

The next Democratic candidate for president SidneyR 14 hrs ago #37

And wryter2000 14 hrs ago #39

There may never again be "voting" DENVERPOPS 12 hrs ago #67

how exactly are they going to take over voting in blue states? thebigidea 12 hrs ago #69

Well, DENVERPOPS 7 hrs ago #80

I believe there will be open voter intimidation again Arazi 7 hrs ago #86

My solution wryter2000 14 hrs ago #38

I have always thought that Mblaze 14 hrs ago #43

If you want their vote treat them like 4 yr olds yaesu 13 hrs ago #54

Joe in 2020 Jimbo S 13 hrs ago #59

yeah well we are paying for that now Skittles 4 hrs ago #97

The sooner we stop trying to BlueSky3 13 hrs ago #62

Agree GenThePerservering 4 hrs ago #94

Yes Dem4life1234 13 hrs ago #64

Trump did not promise to improve the lives of his voters. He promised to punish the people his voters wanted to hurt. LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago #71

Trump isn't a tough guy, he's a bully. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 8 hrs ago #73

Nope. It's still because they're stupid. flvegan 7 hrs ago #76

Where I'm at today JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #78

This argument might have held a little merit in 2016 Blue_Tires 7 hrs ago #83

Thank you JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #85

Their mentality is unfathomable n/t ailsagirl 6 hrs ago #87

Maybe. egduj 6 hrs ago #89

They think The Wizard 6 hrs ago #90

I wish people wouldn't refer to Trump as a 'strongman' GenThePerservering 4 hrs ago #92