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Demobrat

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51. I would love to read your observations.

Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:50 PM

13 hrs ago

I live in the bluest of blue bubbles in San Francisco. I have always lived in cities, Chicago, LA, and here. I have no contact with rural people, and any insight into how they think is welcome. Even if it’s not flattering. I wouldn’t expect it to be.

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I think the reason that many working-class men voted for Rump is because they love tough guys and they were fooled [View all] LaMouffette 16 hrs ago OP

What about white women Keepthesoulalive 16 hrs ago #1

Religion get the red out 16 hrs ago #2

People in Florida are not very religious but they have no problem with a little demagogue named desantis Keepthesoulalive 15 hrs ago #19

Speaking of which, how come it's always about white kids angst? Never about black children and their distress. cbabe 14 hrs ago #28

Because it resonates with racist Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #55

True. My thought was mostly rhetorical. But I'd sure like to hear it mentioned every time someone mentions cbabe 13 hrs ago #58

America is based on myths and lies Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #63

Should we keep quiet? Or speak out always? That's how we rewrite the story. cbabe 13 hrs ago #65

When you try myth busting Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #68

Most residents of Florida are Christians Mariana 4 hrs ago #96

Cite numbers please Keepthesoulalive 4 hrs ago #98

Over 3,500 gods worshiped by humans since the beginning of time... NotHardly 14 hrs ago #35

Good point. Maybe they also wanted a tough guy for president and didn't realize they were voting for a buffoon. LaMouffette 16 hrs ago #5

He played a businessman on TV Beck23 14 hrs ago #23

Keepthesoulalive ........... Upthevibe 14 hrs ago #40

Exit polls are not the actual results happy feet 13 hrs ago #47

Wait for the Pew validated voter studies to be finished. spooky3 4 hrs ago #95

Just checked AP Reuters and Npr Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #49

Not this one BlueKentuckyGirl 14 hrs ago #41

Don't worry about it Keepthesoulalive 14 hrs ago #42

Yes, but the same rationale applies to all Felon voters Bread and Circuses 7 hrs ago #77

We've had moral majority, freedom fries Keepthesoulalive 7 hrs ago #79

Male voters rso 16 hrs ago #3

I know. I don't get it. But he was their guy, fake tan, lifts in his shoes, obese, "bad-built body," and all. LaMouffette 16 hrs ago #6

Yeah. Another excuse for what is actually bigotry. No one could travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #8

45 is JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #82

I don't know BeerBarrelPolka 16 hrs ago #4

You are absolutely right about the bubble. Even though I live in a red state, I was in my own bubble to such an extent LaMouffette 16 hrs ago #9

Yes BeerBarrelPolka 15 hrs ago #14

I'm new here Elmotime 15 hrs ago #18

Welcome BeerBarrelPolka 15 hrs ago #20

It's DemocratIC. Always has been Arazi 15 hrs ago #21

as I said Elmotime 15 hrs ago #22

Alas Arazi 14 hrs ago #24

agreed. berksdem 14 hrs ago #25

I think it's pretty clear Elmotime 14 hrs ago #27

Stick around BeerBarrelPolka 14 hrs ago #32

I totally get it... berksdem 14 hrs ago #33

I'm not going to apologize for requesting that you use Democratic framing Arazi 14 hrs ago #36

I'm afraid I have to jump in here for a minute. Aristus 13 hrs ago #46

Well said happy feet 13 hrs ago #50

Thank you. Aristus 13 hrs ago #53

The Elmotime JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #81

I also mostly read for the same reason. . . . h2ebits 14 hrs ago #44

Heather Cox Richardson DENVERPOPS 13 hrs ago #61

I would love to read your observations. Demobrat 13 hrs ago #51

Just understand JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #84

Trump is not tough. He is out of shape, a pervert, racist failure JI7 16 hrs ago #7

I'm with you on the racist part, for sure, but I think Rump created an image of success and toughness that LaMouffette 16 hrs ago #11

Plus, he wears badly-fitting clothes that look like he slept in them. Aristus 13 hrs ago #48

No. Once again, the main driver was white supremacy. ananda 16 hrs ago #10

I agree that racism and misogyny were also major factors. No doubt. But also the tough-guy factor, and Rump's strangely LaMouffette 15 hrs ago #12

Racists and Misogynists are at heart Bullies. haele 12 hrs ago #70

Racism and misogyny 🎯 Arazi 14 hrs ago #31

He is not a tough guy, he is just a bully. nt DURHAM D 15 hrs ago #13

And they love him for it Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #52

They voted for him because they are nazis. Basso8vb 15 hrs ago #15

Trump is the Pillsbury Dough Boy w/orange food coloring, RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 15 hrs ago #16

"Racism is dead." John Roberts said. czarjak 15 hrs ago #17

2028. I hope Mark Cuban runs. Captain Zero 14 hrs ago #26

Evangelical and Born Again Christians... pandr32 14 hrs ago #29

That's true and also because our party, in its values and its governing Walleye 14 hrs ago #30

Harris didn't lose because she lost white men. Self Esteem 14 hrs ago #34

Never has false propaganda Mblaze 14 hrs ago #45

Maybe so but then we've got to figure out how to counter the messaging... Self Esteem 8 hrs ago #72

We know that a significant number of Muslims voted for Trump... keep_left 13 hrs ago #56

It is possible 2024 turns out to be an anomaly election. Self Esteem 8 hrs ago #74

I'm curious, where are you getting the numbers in those polls? keep_left 7 hrs ago #75

They're linked in my posts. Self Esteem 6 hrs ago #88

Duh...should have just subtracted to get the margins. keep_left 5 hrs ago #91

Because of psychological warfare by Russia Farmer-Rick 13 hrs ago #57

Your points are reasonable and I agree with your conclusions, as far as they go FakeNoose 13 hrs ago #60

I can not imagine why ANY DENVERPOPS 13 hrs ago #66

Yes, she did. That one group, especially white men without spooky3 4 hrs ago #93

The next Democratic candidate for president SidneyR 14 hrs ago #37

And wryter2000 14 hrs ago #39

There may never again be "voting" DENVERPOPS 13 hrs ago #67

how exactly are they going to take over voting in blue states? thebigidea 12 hrs ago #69

Well, DENVERPOPS 7 hrs ago #80

I believe there will be open voter intimidation again Arazi 7 hrs ago #86

My solution wryter2000 14 hrs ago #38

I have always thought that Mblaze 14 hrs ago #43

If you want their vote treat them like 4 yr olds yaesu 13 hrs ago #54

Joe in 2020 Jimbo S 13 hrs ago #59

yeah well we are paying for that now Skittles 4 hrs ago #97

The sooner we stop trying to BlueSky3 13 hrs ago #62

Agree GenThePerservering 4 hrs ago #94

Yes Dem4life1234 13 hrs ago #64

Trump did not promise to improve the lives of his voters. He promised to punish the people his voters wanted to hurt. LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago #71

Trump isn't a tough guy, he's a bully. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 8 hrs ago #73

Nope. It's still because they're stupid. flvegan 7 hrs ago #76

Where I'm at today JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #78

This argument might have held a little merit in 2016 Blue_Tires 7 hrs ago #83

Thank you JustAnotherGen 7 hrs ago #85

Their mentality is unfathomable n/t ailsagirl 7 hrs ago #87

Maybe. egduj 6 hrs ago #89

They think The Wizard 6 hrs ago #90

I wish people wouldn't refer to Trump as a 'strongman' GenThePerservering 5 hrs ago #92