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Jeebo

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43. The extremists are on the right, not the left.

Wed Dec 11, 2024, 03:54 PM

Dec 11

When Bernie Sanders first announced his candidacy for president in 2015, Thom Hartman on his show ran a segment in which he listed all the issues on which Bernie's position agreed with upwards of 60 percent of the American electorate. It was a long list and it took Hartmann a while to get through it. While I was listening, I kept wondering, how much longer would that list be if it were only 50 percent instead of 60? Bernie Sanders is not some far-left liberal as the right-wingers are always trying to portray him. He's actually solidly in the mainstream of American politics. There's no such thing as the "far left" but there is a "far right" and it has now seized control of our federal government. I don't look forward to the next four years.

— Ron

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what the hell is the "Far Left"? [View all] onethatcares Dec 11 OP

Fascist construct. The Unmitigated Gall Dec 11 #1

Agree, MAGAts don't like being called the "Far Right"... AntiFascist Dec 11 #18

This!!! ThePartyThatListens Dec 11 #45

I've asked people to define what the "far left" is. Initech Dec 11 #2

The "far left" in the US is what, in almost any European country, Bettie Dec 11 #38

Here's my fave LearnedHand Dec 11 #56

That is a very good one Bettie Dec 11 #58

Heh LearnedHand Dec 11 #61

That's not the Far Left Dorian Gray Dec 11 #79

That is what the media means Bettie Dec 12 #84

And "woke" Cherrycheeks Dec 11 #65

"Good jobs at good wages" Jack Valentino Dec 12 #85

It's a made up derogatory term. Propaganda is absorbed better if it's distilled down to as few words as possible and/or surfered Dec 11 #3

"Propaganda is absorbed better if it's distilled down to as few words as possible" The Wandering Harper Dec 11 #20

Emmanuel Goldstein Basso8vb Dec 11 #4

Wasn't He A DUer at One Time? MineralMan Dec 11 #16

We meet at 3 H2O Man Dec 11 #22

A College professor once lectured to me and others... WarGamer Dec 11 #5

Brings to mind an image of the Worm Ouroboros. MineralMan Dec 11 #17

Right now, the "buckle" is Bettie Dec 11 #39

The "far left" is... -misanthroptimist Dec 11 #6

I would add: returnee Dec 12 #89

Folks that believe some should go to prison without trial Kaleva Dec 11 #7

Those illustrate authoritarian positions, NOT far left ones. marybourg Dec 11 #8

You are talking about leftists positions Kaleva Dec 11 #34

A few centuries back in a certain country virtually everyone was a leftist. GreenWave Dec 11 #9

Almost anything anti-corporate advantaged. Passages Dec 11 #10

If Dem4life1234 Dec 11 #11

People who think this country should keep improving itself. Oneironaut Dec 11 #12

Is your premise that it doesn't exist? BannonsLiver Dec 11 #13

Do they think that WE are the far left? John Farmer Dec 11 #14

they think that we are commie socialists. rampartd Dec 11 #24

There is a difference between reality and how the term is used. Renew Deal Dec 11 #15

Politically it's the people that support policies which have overwhelming public support on a multitude of issues which Uncle Joe Dec 11 #19

Well said Bettie Dec 11 #41

Well said. But also... Brenda Dec 11 #50

Like most labels defining the "Left" is like going to a green grocer and finding the Vegetables. Ping Tung Dec 11 #21

unreliable tankies who hate Dems and echo Putin? thebigidea Dec 11 #23

It seems if you go far right or far left enough... C_U_L8R Dec 11 #25

There is no one definition. H2O Man Dec 11 #26

A make believe enemy designed to scare people to stop thinking DBoon Dec 11 #27

From my understanding far left centrist. nt Gore1FL Dec 11 #28

The ultimate Straw Man. nt eppur_se_muova Dec 11 #29

His name is Goldstein lame54 Dec 11 #31

"I think Trump may have done something bad once." lame54 Dec 11 #30

Ask Bill Maher KT2000 Dec 11 #32

I'm actually a socialist. I suppose I qualify in this country as ultra far left. nt. Voltaire2 Dec 11 #33

So you think the govt owning the means of production is a goal? EX500rider Dec 11 #40

No I think workers ought to own 'the means of production', not the government, not oligarchs. Voltaire2 Dec 11 #48

That only works in vary small scale EX500rider Dec 11 #51

Mondragon Cooperative employs 75,000 people. Voltaire2 Dec 11 #54

Which is Marxist theory soandso Dec 11 #68

The actual far left is historically not anywhere close to a monolithic group of totalitarian ideologies. Wolver Dec 12 #86

There is a balance that needs to be maintained... AntiFascist Dec 11 #75

tech-bro libertarianism has morphed into tech-bro fascism. There never was much difference. Voltaire2 Dec 12 #87

That's the far right fascists projecting, of course. canuckledragger Dec 11 #35

Point out to the MSM the US Constitution protects the far left. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 11 #36

historically the constitution has not protected the left in this country. nt. Voltaire2 Dec 11 #55

It's looking like the Founders were a bit shortsighted RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 11 #73

The ostensibly oppressed who seek to become oppressors Sympthsical Dec 11 #37

Don't shoot the messenger. YMMV Wolver Dec 11 #42

I think the Bill Maher "worm" is infecting peoples brains SunImp Dec 11 #44

I find it all kind of sad and pathetic, and I'm not "well educated or intelligent" Wolver Dec 11 #47

The extremists are on the right, not the left. Jeebo Dec 11 #43

Would you agree that the far left favors censorship? Kaleva Dec 11 #49

Where does this notion come from? LearnedHand Dec 11 #59

From posts here at DU Kaleva Dec 11 #66

Gotcha thx. But I don't think that applies to the far left in general. LearnedHand Dec 11 #67

Strawman liberal Johonny Dec 11 #46

What would you label those who favor censorship? Kaleva Dec 11 #52

What would you label those who favor unrelenting admonishment of fellow DU members? Ilikepurple Dec 11 #70

That isn't an answer to the question I asked the other member Kaleva Dec 12 #83

I would label them fascists - TBF Dec 11 #74

DuckDuckGo AI Chat says... Bonx Dec 11 #53

Count me the hell in to the "far left," then LearnedHand Dec 11 #60

As I have often said . . . markpkessinger Dec 11 #57

Nowadays, it's FDR and the New Deal. no_hypocrisy Dec 11 #62

According to the Political Compass, I'm FAR LEFT in the Libertarian quadrant LearnedHand Dec 11 #63

IMO the far left is Dem Socialist types who don't consistently support Dems and who often promote Russian propaganda LymphocyteLover Dec 11 #64

Barry Goldwater. Turbineguy Dec 11 #69

Tolerant, thoughtful, compassionate people, sometimes overbearing, who seem to want to help others. Jit423 Dec 11 #71

Anyone who is left of a centrist, Emile Dec 11 #72

The far left are those who are VERY serious about... Think. Again. Dec 11 #76

Wanting healthcare and a living wage. Clean air and water. onecaliberal Dec 11 #77

Far left are the people Dorian Gray Dec 11 #78

with the far left we might get healthcare for all Skittles Dec 11 #80

THIS if the "far left" DBoon Dec 11 #81

In NYC there are Dorian Gray Dec 12 #88

The Far Left LogDog75 Dec 11 #82