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spooky3

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93. Yes, she did. That one group, especially white men without

Wed Dec 11, 2024, 09:41 PM

Dec 11

College degrees and those who are evangelicals, voted so strongly for TFG that it forced other groups to come out overwhelmingly for the Democratic candidate.

I am sick to death of people expecting women of all colors, Latinos, Black Americans, and other groups to make up the gap created primarily by white men as a group—a group that benefits greatly from the inflation reduction act, ACA, infrastructure investment, and many other Dem sponsored laws.

IT IS SIMPLE ARITHMETIC. Every vote counts. If white men as a group were not so strongly for TFG, Harris would have won.

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I think the reason that many working-class men voted for Rump is because they love tough guys and they were fooled [View all] LaMouffette Dec 11 OP

What about white women Keepthesoulalive Dec 11 #1

Religion get the red out Dec 11 #2

People in Florida are not very religious but they have no problem with a little demagogue named desantis Keepthesoulalive Dec 11 #19

Speaking of which, how come it's always about white kids angst? Never about black children and their distress. cbabe Dec 11 #28

Because it resonates with racist Keepthesoulalive Dec 11 #55

True. My thought was mostly rhetorical. But I'd sure like to hear it mentioned every time someone mentions cbabe Dec 11 #58

America is based on myths and lies Keepthesoulalive Dec 11 #63

Should we keep quiet? Or speak out always? That's how we rewrite the story. cbabe Dec 11 #65

When you try myth busting Keepthesoulalive Dec 11 #68

Most residents of Florida are Christians Mariana Dec 11 #96

Cite numbers please Keepthesoulalive Dec 11 #98

Over 3,500 gods worshiped by humans since the beginning of time... NotHardly Dec 11 #35

Good point. Maybe they also wanted a tough guy for president and didn't realize they were voting for a buffoon. LaMouffette Dec 11 #5

He played a businessman on TV Beck23 Dec 11 #23

Keepthesoulalive ........... Upthevibe Dec 11 #40

Exit polls are not the actual results happy feet Dec 11 #47

Wait for the Pew validated voter studies to be finished. spooky3 Dec 11 #95

How the he** do you know that. No one knows that. EOM. lostnfound Dec 12 #99

Just checked AP Reuters and Npr Keepthesoulalive Dec 11 #49

Not this one BlueKentuckyGirl Dec 11 #41

Don't worry about it Keepthesoulalive Dec 11 #42

Yes, but the same rationale applies to all Felon voters Bread and Circuses Dec 11 #77

We've had moral majority, freedom fries Keepthesoulalive Dec 11 #79

Male voters rso Dec 11 #3

I know. I don't get it. But he was their guy, fake tan, lifts in his shoes, obese, "bad-built body," and all. LaMouffette Dec 11 #6

Yeah. Another excuse for what is actually bigotry. No one could travelingthrulife Dec 11 #8

45 is JustAnotherGen Dec 11 #82

I don't know BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #4

You are absolutely right about the bubble. Even though I live in a red state, I was in my own bubble to such an extent LaMouffette Dec 11 #9

Yes BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #14

I'm new here Elmotime Dec 11 #18

Welcome BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #20

It's DemocratIC. Always has been Arazi Dec 11 #21

as I said Elmotime Dec 11 #22

Alas Arazi Dec 11 #24

agreed. berksdem Dec 11 #25

I think it's pretty clear Elmotime Dec 11 #27

Stick around BeerBarrelPolka Dec 11 #32

I totally get it... berksdem Dec 11 #33

I'm not going to apologize for requesting that you use Democratic framing Arazi Dec 11 #36

I'm afraid I have to jump in here for a minute. Aristus Dec 11 #46

Well said happy feet Dec 11 #50

Thank you. Aristus Dec 11 #53

The Elmotime JustAnotherGen Dec 11 #81

Such a warm welcome Elmotime Dec 12 #100

It's a message board JustAnotherGen Dec 12 #105

I also mostly read for the same reason. . . . h2ebits Dec 11 #44

Heather Cox Richardson DENVERPOPS Dec 11 #61

I would love to read your observations. Demobrat Dec 11 #51

Just understand JustAnotherGen Dec 11 #84

Trump is not tough. He is out of shape, a pervert, racist failure JI7 Dec 11 #7

I'm with you on the racist part, for sure, but I think Rump created an image of success and toughness that LaMouffette Dec 11 #11

Plus, he wears badly-fitting clothes that look like he slept in them. Aristus Dec 11 #48

No. Once again, the main driver was white supremacy. ananda Dec 11 #10

I agree that racism and misogyny were also major factors. No doubt. But also the tough-guy factor, and Rump's strangely LaMouffette Dec 11 #12

Racists and Misogynists are at heart Bullies. haele Dec 11 #70

Racism and misogyny 🎯 Arazi Dec 11 #31

This! happy feet Dec 12 #101

He is not a tough guy, he is just a bully. nt DURHAM D Dec 11 #13

And they love him for it Keepthesoulalive Dec 11 #52

They voted for him because they are nazis. Basso8vb Dec 11 #15

Trump is the Pillsbury Dough Boy w/orange food coloring, RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 11 #16

"Racism is dead." John Roberts said. czarjak Dec 11 #17

2028. I hope Mark Cuban runs. Captain Zero Dec 11 #26

Evangelical and Born Again Christians... pandr32 Dec 11 #29

That's true and also because our party, in its values and its governing Walleye Dec 11 #30

Harris didn't lose because she lost white men. Self Esteem Dec 11 #34

Never has false propaganda Mblaze Dec 11 #45

Maybe so but then we've got to figure out how to counter the messaging... Self Esteem Dec 11 #72

We know that a significant number of Muslims voted for Trump... keep_left Dec 11 #56

It is possible 2024 turns out to be an anomaly election. Self Esteem Dec 11 #74

I'm curious, where are you getting the numbers in those polls? keep_left Dec 11 #75

They're linked in my posts. Self Esteem Dec 11 #88

Duh...should have just subtracted to get the margins. keep_left Dec 11 #91

Because of psychological warfare by Russia Farmer-Rick Dec 11 #57

Your points are reasonable and I agree with your conclusions, as far as they go FakeNoose Dec 11 #60

I can not imagine why ANY DENVERPOPS Dec 11 #66

Yes, she did. That one group, especially white men without spooky3 Dec 11 #93

Harris did better than Biden among white men and women. Self Esteem Dec 12 #107

The next Democratic candidate for president SidneyR Dec 11 #37

And wryter2000 Dec 11 #39

There may never again be "voting" DENVERPOPS Dec 11 #67

how exactly are they going to take over voting in blue states? thebigidea Dec 11 #69

Well, DENVERPOPS Dec 11 #80

I believe there will be open voter intimidation again Arazi Dec 11 #86

My solution wryter2000 Dec 11 #38

I have always thought that Mblaze Dec 11 #43

If you want their vote treat them like 4 yr olds yaesu Dec 11 #54

Joe in 2020 Jimbo S Dec 11 #59

yeah well we are paying for that now Skittles Dec 11 #97

The sooner we stop trying to BlueSky3 Dec 11 #62

Agree GenThePerservering Dec 11 #94

Yes Dem4life1234 Dec 11 #64

Trump did not promise to improve the lives of his voters. He promised to punish the people his voters wanted to hurt. LetMyPeopleVote Dec 11 #71

Trump isn't a tough guy, he's a bully. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 11 #73

Nope. It's still because they're stupid. flvegan Dec 11 #76

Where I'm at today JustAnotherGen Dec 11 #78

This argument might have held a little merit in 2016 Blue_Tires Dec 11 #83

Thank you JustAnotherGen Dec 11 #85

Their mentality is unfathomable n/t ailsagirl Dec 11 #87

Maybe. egduj Dec 11 #89

They think The Wizard Dec 11 #90

I wish people wouldn't refer to Trump as a 'strongman' GenThePerservering Dec 11 #92

Stupidity and selfishness Woodwizard Dec 12 #102

We aren't Europe. We don't have a "working class." We have white-collar, blue collar workers. valleyrogue Dec 12 #103

You nailed it! Blue_Roses Dec 12 #104

Guess they will Rebl2 Dec 12 #106