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Crunchy Frog

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48. Real number estimates range between 114 billion

Sat Mar 1, 2025, 07:59 PM

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and somewhat less than 100 billion, and includes money given to US arms manufacturers, and grossly inflated estimates of the monetary worth of weapons that were heading for the scrap heap. The numbers also include non-military aid.

The massive numbers people cite are RW propaganda.

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The Sum of All Fears: Trump will announce a U.S.arms embargo on Ukraine, [View all] speak easy Saturday OP

if that were to happen... Europe will dissolve NATO lapfog_1 Saturday #1

Be wary. The US is the armorer of the world. cachukis Saturday #2

US will lose billions of dollars in contracts too newdeal2 Saturday #3

Ultimately, but when you need bombs today? cachukis Saturday #10

Isn't that what poot face wants.. Cha Saturday #16

Trump has to show his autocratic chops. cachukis Saturday #44

China. Crunchy Frog Saturday #42

Contractors will not uphold what the CiC says. They'll continue to sell arms to NATO and/or EU countries. ancianita Saturday #26

the military is probably the only thing of value stillcool Saturday #31

I wish whatever state wanted to secede would do it already. Initech Saturday #4

It's Not Like That Y'all... MayReasonRule Saturday #6

sorry, but we must reduce the resources that the "USA" ( Trump ) can command lapfog_1 Saturday #8

Then what can be done? Initech Saturday #13

Forming Bonds Across State Lines To Accomplish Our National And Local Goals MayReasonRule Saturday #15

The bad thing is no matter what we do, the propaganda will still be shitty. Initech Saturday #18

I was musing about that possibility for the first time today. yardwork Saturday #7

They don't have to dissolve NATO as trump has effectively pulled us out and side with Russia. brush Saturday #39

That has been a forgone conclusion all along. DENVERPOPS Saturday #5

two things that might help Ukraine lapfog_1 Saturday #11

Good ideas DENVERPOPS Saturday #17

Europe should kick the US out of NATO Ritabert Saturday #9

They have and they will lapfog_1 Saturday #14

With those, DENVERPOPS Saturday #19

NATO can not afford to kick the US out. Dynamic Unicorn Saturday #22

Dumpy can't unilaterally end our NATO membership, but I think I saw where rubio is planning on defunding it PortTack Saturday #25

I think you are correct. I'm not sure what can be done without congress. Dynamic Unicorn Saturday #37

Yes, President Biden saw the bill signed into law b4 the last midterms. PortTack Sunday #66

The US provides 15.8% of Nato expenditures, not 2/3rds. The 2/3rds claim is RW disinfo. Celerity Saturday #35

You are correct, that is the NATO budget. Dynamic Unicorn Saturday #40

You've just been corrected once on spreading misinformation. Prepare to be corrected again. Emrys Saturday #47

You have missed the entire point of what I said. Dynamic Unicorn Saturday #49

The article I cited, if you bother to read it, also covers lesser claims. Emrys Saturday #53

With this further clarification, I think you and I agree on these issues. Dynamic Unicorn Saturday #60

I think we do in general, and yes, discussion's always good, and encourages me, at least, to stretch myself Emrys Saturday #62

Excellent post and again, we agree. Dynamic Unicorn Saturday #63

They have literally saved the war for Ukraine Emrys Saturday #64

Real number estimates range between 114 billion Crunchy Frog Saturday #48

I have little doubt that the reported numbers are inflated Dynamic Unicorn Saturday #54

It's not made it to Ukraine because it or the materiel it represents has never left the US Emrys Saturday #55

There's a big difference between allocated and distributed. Crunchy Frog Saturday #59

And BTW, looking at your profile, I see that you've been here a whole... Crunchy Frog Saturday #61

And Dump has just handed Ukraine over to his best pal, Pootie-Poot sakabatou Saturday #12

I read somewhere DENVERPOPS Saturday #21

they largely build their own drones lapfog_1 Saturday #27

They certainly could come from elsewhere DENVERPOPS Saturday #38

Ukraine does have a growing domestic drone manufacturing set-up, largely decentralized, Emrys Saturday #50

I'm sure President Zelensky and all of the EU expected this. I believe that's why Zelensky was so able to keep PortTack Saturday #20

I'm sure all of the arms manufacturers here are going to love that. GoCubsGo Saturday #23

This i mentioned yesterday. bluestarone Saturday #24

I think an even.worse scenario is possible Diraven Saturday #28

Breaking - UK pledges 2.26bn to Ukraine as Zelensky says it will be used for weapons stillcool Saturday #29

It's bluster. Even if the felon directed an embargo on Ukraine ancianita Saturday #30

Thx for the informed opinion and info...sure makes me feel better! PortTack Saturday #34

That will break the country C_U_L8R Saturday #32

Dissolve NATO. creon Saturday #33

Wut? Just kick the US off the NATO list and there are still 31 NATO nations left. ancianita Saturday #45

That can be done as well. creon Saturday #65

and then Donald gives those arms to Russia to help misunderstood victim Vlad. Norrrm Saturday #36

Seriously? Current weapons contractors will just play along, but no, they won't take rubles. ancianita Saturday #46

Well, they might take rubles if laundered through the NRA. Norrrm Saturday #52

I have said it before. The USSR played a long game. JanMichael Saturday #41

When JD Vance was little he hid the Sears catalog under his bed. Oneironaut Saturday #43

TRAITOR! elleng Saturday #51

Well, according to some legal experts, B.See Saturday #56

If that's so, mustn't it be followed up? elleng Saturday #57

A whole LOT of B.See Saturday #58

TSF is going to end up making China again. DemocratSinceBirth Sunday #67