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angrychair

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Sun Mar 2, 2025, 02:36 PM Sunday

Lies about martial law [View all]

I am hearing a lot of talk about martial law and I think we need to clear the air on what that means and dispell the notion it is some sort of nationwide lock down.

So first a little quick history. Martial Law has been declared a handful of times throughout US History. Famously by British governors in key cities to halt the revolution that obviously failed. In New Orleans during the War of 1812. The last time was by the governor of Alabama in 1961 to combat Freedom Riders.
The president was given this authority in the 2007 NDAA.
Interestingly the Insurrection Act of 1807 was unknowingly modified in or around 2007 to give a president broad authority to seize and nationalize a state's national guard for martial law. In 2008 this was stripped and restored the original text of the Insurrection Act of 1807, which significantly limits the circumstances that a president can use to seize control of a state's national guard.

That said the key takeaway here should be that in every case of martial law it was done on a limited scale to a small geographical area.

Even if you use the fictional "Red Dawn" movie scenario, the reality even in that movie was a very limited occupation of only part of the western US that had significant rebel forces.

I think people lose perspective of how large the US is and and how many people are in it. There are over 350 million people in 3.5 million square miles.

Significant portions are heavily wooded, mountainous or covered in marshes and swamps.

There are, in total across all services, roughly a million active duty military. The number of them willing to participate in a nationwide martial law would be less than 30% if that many. That's based on voting trends and that the US military is a highly trained professional fighting force and the use of military force against Americans is the exact opposite of their mission. This is their country, their neighbors. Their friends. Their family.
Not to mention that martial law would be economic and political suicide. The stock market would crash. There would be a run on the banks. People would not go to work. Everything would come undone.
So it is neither practical nor realistic for a nationwide martial law. It's just not.

Realistically they could try to seize a city or other area in order to make an example of it but even that would have significant economic and political repercussions.

All that said I do not put it past the mango mussolini to try it.
I have 100% faith in the fact that it would be a critical mistake that will be the end of his administration.

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