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lapfog_1

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1. a rapid escalation might have pushed Russia to use nukes

Reply to OnDoutside (Original post)

Fri Mar 28, 2025, 09:13 AM

Mar 2025

Biden wanted to constrain the fight to the territory of Ukraine to prevent the reality of an Ukrainian army marching to Moscow and a resulting reaction by Putin.

I don't know for certain, but I suspect that it was communicated that IF Russia used even tactical nukes inside Ukraine, the west would respond with either nuclear strikes on Russia or by declaring an emergency in NATO to join the fight and crush Russia.

We can argue for the next few hundred years if this was a correct strategy.

If Trump hadn't "won" the election Russia would be thinking about leaving Ukraine and the war would be "over" by now.

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I wonder do President Biden and Jake Sullivan regret forcing Ukraine to fight with one hand tied behind their back ? [View all] OnDoutside Mar 2025 OP

a rapid escalation might have pushed Russia to use nukes lapfog_1 Mar 2025 #1

I could see that boiling frog early on, and I tended to agree with it. However OnDoutside Mar 2025 #4

I really, REALLY doubt it. Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #6

Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #2

The same General Westmorland "light at the end of the tunnel" bullshit. There was a real risk of Putin deploying JohnSJ Mar 2025 #3

I'd agree with you certainly for the first year, but after that even Putin could see how weak Russia was, fighting a OnDoutside Mar 2025 #5

sorry, but I don't buy the Curtis E. Lemay talk that during the Cuban Missiles, that was our chance to put an end to JohnSJ Mar 2025 #8

No one is talking about putting an end to Russia once and for all, but rather doing what the Cold War did economically OnDoutside Mar 2025 #12

I see exactly zero evidence Putin would have used nukes. Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #7

........... JohnSJ Mar 2025 #13

And you don't see that as saber rattling? Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #14

The Cuban missile crisis was barely averted with the help of JohnSJ Mar 2025 #15

I know the US no matter who is President is willing to do more for countries AZProgressive Mar 2025 #9

Yes, it's all Biden's fault. maxsolomon Mar 2025 #10

and Jake Sullivan OnDoutside Mar 2025 #11