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Bernardo de La Paz

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13. Sentiment is very mixed but investors might still be net positive
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 03:19 PM
Mar 2025

The big funds and banks and brokerages are mostly still touting new highs by the end of this year, though Goldman Sachs and Royal Bank Canada have lowered their estimates and increased their probability assessment of risk of recession.

Judging by headlines on MarketWatch and Barrons, there are lots of articles about stock picks for this or that, Tesla Bull A expects higher prices for reason Y, how to buy defensive stocks, along with articles about tariff jitters and uncertainty. An uptick in jitters articles today, feels like.

It pays to take a bit of a contrarian stance. In January, there were many articles about a bright future for business with only a few about doubts. That is toppish. I don't know what Business Week (now Bloomberg Businessweek) is doing these weeks, but there was an old trope with a bunch of truth behind it that if its cover declared that there was an ongoing strong bull market, then that was a sign of a top.

They don't have many BusinessWeek covers but they have many others on this fascinating web page with charts and correlations.
https://alphacubedinvestments.com/magazines/



RBC: https://www.rbccm.com/en/story/story.page?dcr=templatedata/article/story/data/2025/03/walking-through-the-math-behind-our-updated-sp-500-forecasts

Published March 17, 2025 | 1 min read
The big things you need to know:

We’ve lowered our YE 2025 S&P 500 price target to 6,200 from 6,600.
We’ve lowered our 2025 S&P 500 EPS forecast to $264 from $271.
Among other adjustments, our new price target and EPS forecast embed the updated views of RBC’s Economics and Rates strategy team which were released last week.
We have updated our year-end 2025 bear case for the S&P 500, which we’ve lowered from 5,775 to 5,550.
Fourth, some of the vibes we’ve been tracking are starting to look too extreme to us (in terms of their negativity), but others have more room to go lower.

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Will the stock market go level 3 Wednesday? [View all] Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2025 OP
All I know is, I was much better off on Jan 19th Emile Mar 2025 #1
Im down 20% due to tariff talk and indecision. OLDMDDEM Mar 2025 #17
Might be a big drop, but not that big.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #2
When I heard he was making it in Rose garden Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2025 #3
It'll be a bad day, but sentiment is already in the crapper....NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #4
Sentiment is very mixed but investors might still be net positive Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #13
I hadn't heard that. Thx. Any indication of scheduled time of day? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #10
I think we're yet to see the worse of these moron's unfettered tampering w/the Economy. For some reason, he seems to SWBTATTReg Mar 2025 #5
Economic choices are a great example of mass action. Also some hearsay tRump wants to drive dollar down Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #8
I don't have a crystal ball, but.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2025 #19
Personally, I think what you're doing is smart. Let the chips fall, let the fallout hit, and then, just maybe, there SWBTATTReg Apr 2025 #29
One might think so, but the market seems to like emulating ostriches Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #6
I Guess No ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #7
Seems to have been goosed up about 2pm EDT today, perhaps some news crossed the wires? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #9
Could Be ProfessorGAC Mar 2025 #20
I agree with all your points. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #21
2ET is a common bullish pivot point... today, institutions poured in to buy. WarGamer Mar 2025 #24
No. onenote Mar 2025 #11
That's up to the big money people Nigrum Cattus Mar 2025 #12
Arent the tariffs baked in at this point? Johonny Mar 2025 #14
I think the uncertainty is baked in & Apr 2 will not dispell all of it, but downside risks not baked in Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #16
I was worried that my financial consultant Johonny Mar 2025 #22
Maybe Diraven Mar 2025 #26
No. The big drops come from unexpected events GreatGazoo Mar 2025 #15
True, but I think markets are uncertain & a bit complacent, not realizing how much things have changed Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #18
A former floor trader said he thinks algos are behind the GreatGazoo Mar 2025 #23
Good post Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #25
I over simplified GreatGazoo Apr 2025 #28
Doubt it. it is not a surprising event. JohnSJ Mar 2025 #27
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