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6. Exactly. I thought Kamala Harris and Tim Walz did a decent job of talking about

Tue Apr 1, 2025, 05:58 PM

Apr 2025

"kitchen table" issues. They surely didn't seem out of touch. What is out of touch is perception that many working people have of the Democratic party.

To my (somewhat biased) recollection, the Republicans have never done one thing to address economic issues for working people yet have branded themselves, with some success, as the "party for working people." Give me a fucking break. They are anti-union, anti-minimum wage increase, anti-workplace safety and occupational health, anti-ACA and healthcare in general, and pro-millionaire and billionaire and pro-abuse of monopolistic power.

It is true that the Dems need to message better on these issues and it is also true that many working people have voted against their own interests when voting for Republicans.

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Democrats still misunderstand working-class voters - to their peril [View all] KPN Apr 2025 OP

how do repukes help with "stagnant wages and higher prices" Skittles Apr 2025 #1

Exactly. I thought Kamala Harris and Tim Walz did a decent job of talking about Redleg Apr 2025 #6

well said Skittles Apr 2025 #7

As Thomas Frank observed... regnaD kciN Apr 2025 #66

The secret to the GOP is that they create fake national issues Johonny Apr 2025 #13

YUP Skittles Apr 2025 #15

The opinion piece wasn't about "Repukes". KPN Apr 2025 #47

but it's only DEMS who are advised to "understand working class voters" Skittles Apr 2025 #69

The article is about how out of tune the Third World KPN Apr 2025 #71

I suggest, in this time, many of the voters we relied upon cachukis Apr 2025 #77

The majority of working class voters are xenophobes and are mad about high prices. LonePirate Apr 2025 #2

I don't buy that. Yeah, the majority of Trump voters, but not the majority of working class voters or even voters. KPN Apr 2025 #89

Third Way BS mcar Apr 2025 #3

I had to scroll to the end of the article to see the author. sheshe2 Apr 2025 #19

And talking about both sides of their mouths mcar Apr 2025 #25

That too. sheshe2 Apr 2025 #26

When was Sanders EVER 'third way'?? THAT was the CLINTONS! Jack Valentino Apr 2025 #95

The article itself did that. KPN Apr 2025 #48

If working class voters can't get behind the only party capable of saving our democracy because they got their feelings ImNotGod Apr 2025 #4

Does "working class" mean non-union? SharonClark Apr 2025 #5

Around 90% of workers in the US aren't in unions DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2025 #23

Wrong, This is fiction. betsuni Apr 2025 #8

Indeed it is. A lot of these anti-Democratic Party Op-Ed's are. emulatorloo Apr 2025 #32

Total fiction. Do they not see analysis of how people actually vote?? Nixie Apr 2025 #46

BRAVO !!! This is exactly right. But ... Bluetus Apr 2025 #9

nonsense Skittles Apr 2025 #10

In that case, you must surely agree completely with this Third Way report. Bluetus Apr 2025 #20

WTF Skittles Apr 2025 #21

Trump is implementing every page of P2025 Bluetus Apr 2025 #36

OF COURSE HE IS Skittles Apr 2025 #38

We have lost the media and the courts largely BECAUSE Bluetus Apr 2025 #40

IT IS WELL KNOWN WHAT WE STAND FOR Skittles Apr 2025 #42

Please leave black folks out of it Keepthesoulalive Apr 2025 #72

It is just a fact, not an accusation. Bluetus Apr 2025 #73

Those numbers have been disputed Keepthesoulalive Apr 2025 #74

I certainly didn't mean to imply that black men were the primary reason for our losses Bluetus Apr 2025 #76

Grifters tend to be charismatic Keepthesoulalive Apr 2025 #79

I agree. Dems need to be a lot more direct in calling out the grifters Bluetus Apr 2025 #83

People will be in the streets protesting Keepthesoulalive Apr 2025 #85

That starts in a big way this Saturday Bluetus Apr 2025 #86

Op-Ed is fact-free garbage. P.S.most DU'ers are not going to praise Trump for his shit anti-democratic "plan" emulatorloo Apr 2025 #34

I have no idea what you are talking about. That is certainly nothing remotely like what I suggested. Bluetus Apr 2025 #37

Fact: the economy and economic condition of Americans is better under Democratic administrations. betsuni Apr 2025 #41

That misses the point. Bluetus Apr 2025 #43

You mean yelling empty populist promises, lies. Democratic policy is raising taxes on wealthy and betsuni Apr 2025 #67

People want a plan, not a string of random rhetoric Bluetus Apr 2025 #75

The Democratic plan is government that works for economic and social equality. Republicans know this. betsuni Apr 2025 #104

That's not a plan. That's an aspiration. Bluetus Apr 2025 #105

The Internet Recovery Act was not an "actionable plan?" You make me laugh. emulatorloo Apr 2025 #108

I don't know what the "Internet Recovery Act" is Bluetus Apr 2025 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Apr 2025 #111

They didn't "sell" them. They lied about them. Needy Amin denied that he'd even heard of Project 2025. hatrack Apr 2025 #50

'Bold Ideas' and 'Heritage Foundation' is an oxymoron. Fascism isn't a 'bold idea.' emulatorloo Apr 2025 #107

THANK YOU Skittles Apr 2025 #39

Biden also spoke about the failure of trickle down wryter2000 Apr 2025 #56

Biden did, Hillary "Trumped-up trickle-down economics" and Harris and the Democratic Party. betsuni Apr 2025 #68

Hillary: "Trumped-up trickle down," Biden "Trickle-down economics never works" Harris calls it a failure. betsuni Apr 2025 #70

Thanks. KPN Apr 2025 #97

Too many Dems think progress is achieved and elections won in the 90 days before an election Bluetus Apr 2025 #106

A lot to digest, some I agree with and some I don't Raven123 Apr 2025 #11

Third Way again? Iggo Apr 2025 #12

+1 leftstreet Apr 2025 #18

The Sons Of Lieberman can go fuck themselves . . . . hatrack Apr 2025 #51

The Op Ed actually is very critical of Third Way. In fact, KPN Apr 2025 #52

Well, I think this solution supports the status quo. walkingman Apr 2025 #14

The Op Ed actually agrees with you 100% with the KPN Apr 2025 #55

The 3rd wheel group is the out of touch politicians kacekwl Apr 2025 #16

That's the point being made in the Op Ed exactly. KPN Apr 2025 #57

and republicans do????? CatWoman Apr 2025 #17

The Op Ed was focused on the Democratic Party, granted. KPN Apr 2025 #58

Fuck Third Way. They're part of the problem. nt Rob H. Apr 2025 #22

Exactly! And pretty much what the Op Ed actually KPN Apr 2025 #59

This not "the Democrats" ibegurpard Apr 2025 #24

Read the full article. I think the author agrees with you fully. KPN Apr 2025 #61

You are showing outstanding patience Lulu KC Apr 2025 #92

Trying! KPN Apr 2025 #98

econobabble Tetrachloride Apr 2025 #27

repub front group third way demands dems outreach to racist, sexist and homophobic republicans lol nt msongs Apr 2025 #28

Thanks, LOL! keep_left Apr 2025 #30

The article is actually very critical of Third Way KPN Apr 2025 #63

Third Way are a bunch of useless idiots alarimer Apr 2025 #29

Yup. And that's basically what the OP says KPN Apr 2025 #65

I am so friggen sick of this trope.3rd Way is a Republican play to keep splitting anti-Republican sentiment. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2025 #31

Yup. I don' t know about trope, but I always viewed it as more R than D. KPN Apr 2025 #99

I've been a cynic of 3rd ways since I paid attention and voted. At least Maine figured it out with Ranked Choice Voting. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2025 #102

Listening to LBJ's last interview with Cronkite Comrade Citizen Apr 2025 #33

The real answer is uniting the 99%... Blasphemer Apr 2025 #35

3rd way is a loser Blue Full Moon Apr 2025 #44

Yup. Thats exactly what the article was about and saying. KPN Apr 2025 #103

Basically they'll cause so much chaos and pain flamingdem Apr 2025 #45

Working class MAGAT morons orangecrush Apr 2025 #49

Sometimes I think they believe college graduates outnumber average working people? kentuck Apr 2025 #53

We're supposed to appeal to struggling working class folks wryter2000 Apr 2025 #54

That is exactly the point of the article. The author agrees with you on this. Did you read it fully? KPN Apr 2025 #87

Workers feel ignored. Kid Berwyn Apr 2025 #60

Exactly ... and the article makes that point in my rteading. It's highly critical of 3rd Way -- as it should be. KPN Apr 2025 #90

Confusion about the Guardian article vs Third Way thought crime Apr 2025 #100

The biggest problems Democrats have is failing to tell people what they've done. Look at all the good Vinca Apr 2025 #62

My surprise at this NPR show illustrates the point, I think. LAS14 Apr 2025 #64

Total BS Dlpger61 Apr 2025 #78

This is tiring. RandySF Apr 2025 #80

I work so I am working class Meowmee Apr 2025 #81

Funny how Most Black Working Class People Don't Fall For It Aepps22 Apr 2025 #82

It's a crazy chicken... appmanga Apr 2025 #84

That's a fair statement. At the same time, it ignores a couple of things: the fact that the Democratic Party generally KPN Apr 2025 #88

The hugbox isn't going to take this well. ObscurePiton Apr 2025 #91

Hugbox? Lulu KC Apr 2025 #93

Bullshit. Many working class voters apparently don't know the difference between right and wrong. GulfofMexico Apr 2025 #94

"Hopefully, we as a party can be open minded and embrace this view rather than berate it as anti-D Party." OR B.See Apr 2025 #96

Third Way crap NoRethugFriends Apr 2025 #101

A silver lining: the Democrats-ignore-working-class BS is so obviously BS that it really has to stop. betsuni Apr 2025 #109

James Webb said, you ignore the Scotch-Irish at your peril. Gum Logger Apr 2025 #112