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synni

(778 posts)
43. It can go undiagnosed for decades
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:38 PM
Jul 2025

Most doctors are too lazy to find it, until it's very advanced, and the patient reports symptoms. They don't even bother doing the simple blood test that could alert them to the danger years in advance.

I insist on having testing every 5 years, since CHF runs rampant in my family. If one doctor won't test me, I go to another.

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You can't diagnose anyone from a distance TnDem Jul 2025 #1
No, it doesn't. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #4
Yes. It most certainly does. See my post downstream. hlthe2b Jul 2025 #7
Yep. When repubs were offering remote diagnoses of Teri Schiavo, we correctly mocked them. onenote Jul 2025 #53
Exactly JCMach1 Jul 2025 #18
Of course... Escape Jul 2025 #23
What you can't diagnose is why the dog has 3 legs EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #30
Really? TnDem Jul 2025 #35
Exactly ...nt Raine Jul 2025 #69
Probably not enough to kill a cockroach. Silent Type Jul 2025 #2
I've seen no evidence of pitting edema. Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #3
It's possible they noticed something in his hand, maybe after handshaking, which we've all seen him do. scipan Jul 2025 #5
He doesn't have any significant edema in his hands. Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #14
Good points. Maybe they were wrong or maybe they saw that at a different time. scipan Jul 2025 #37
Please delete this. While CHF (especially right sided dysfunction can be a cause), no physician would hlthe2b Jul 2025 #6
I don't want to be irresponsible. Not sure if you are a doctor or work in healthcare, but scipan Jul 2025 #11
More replies scipan Jul 2025 #13
Nope TnDem Jul 2025 #74
Heaven help us! If he suddenly dies (which seems not only possible but probable) we get a worse monster. CTyankee Jul 2025 #84
Put a disclaimer in the OP. Not gospel, just educated guesses. But so many. scipan Jul 2025 #32
You mean the way everyone rushed to stop the speculation about Biden's health? misanthrope Jul 2025 #94
Do not tease me malaise Jul 2025 #8
Haha! Right?! babylonsister Jul 2025 #15
Hi there malaise Jul 2025 #19
He can't have congestive heart failure and or a brain tumor BigmanPigman Jul 2025 #9
For that matter, he seems to be lacking in courage, as well. n/t Morbius Jul 2025 #12
I was going to write that, too. BigmanPigman Jul 2025 #65
We'll never know the truth Oeditpus Rex Jul 2025 #10
I can see Ronnie Jackson's report now... Shipwack Jul 2025 #26
You can have congestive heart failure for nine years? Demobrat Jul 2025 #16
With the right medicine Lulu KC Jul 2025 #22
I see. Of course Trump has access to the world's Demobrat Jul 2025 #25
True, but this is different synni Jul 2025 #41
Yes. I've seen it for 13. /nt bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #24
Congestive heart failure life expectancy Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #29
It can go undiagnosed for decades synni Jul 2025 #43
Yes. Texasgal Jul 2025 #91
The Last Responders are standing by Historic NY Jul 2025 #17
You Tube doctors do this type of evaluation all the time bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #20
YouTube doctors? TnDem Jul 2025 #75
lol bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #76
I've been around it with my dad. roamer65 Jul 2025 #21
Hope 💩. Dies B4 He Can Do a Cheney MrWowWow Jul 2025 #27
I hoped at the time, and still do, that Cheney's donor was not a Democrat. 3catwoman3 Jul 2025 #51
Well he has acute pantload disease at the very least. CentralMass Jul 2025 #28
Not commenting on the diagnosis except markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #31
You're correct, thanks. Correcting in the OP. Nt scipan Jul 2025 #38
Anyone that has/had a loved one Billsdaughter Jul 2025 #33
Foley catheters create their own problems Deminpenn Jul 2025 #57
He's a classic blue bloater. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #73
OK. I am not a medical professional, and my 2 cents is only worth 2 cents, but . . . colorado_ufo Jul 2025 #34
Equal swelling and not just the legs are also noted by professionals in that thread 🧵. scipan Jul 2025 #40
tsf not golfing is the tell. rubbersole Jul 2025 #67
Reading the comments in the Thread - gave me a warm feeling (smiling). Dan Jul 2025 #36
I was a caregiver for multiple CHF patients synni Jul 2025 #39
Oh that would be too bad... scipan Jul 2025 #42
He will get the best care qazplm135 Jul 2025 #44
Well there's a limit to what they can do. Worst case, he goes to the front of the line for a heart xplant like Cheney. N scipan Jul 2025 #48
this is a good discussion but bottom line - Nigrum Cattus Jul 2025 #45
I guess Vance could break Teddy Roosevelt's record... ITAL Jul 2025 #46
Regardless, it could still be good news. 3825-87867 Jul 2025 #47
I like the way you think. scipan Jul 2025 #49
I agree...it isn't ethical or accurate to diagnose based on photos... Trueblue Texan Jul 2025 #50
He has a heart? That's news to me. Dave Bowman Jul 2025 #52
If it is not possible to diagnose something without an in-person examination then no one... 3catwoman3 Jul 2025 #54
My diagnosis: Zorro Jul 2025 #55
Standard medical procedure: Aussie105 Jul 2025 #56
Less golfing. scipan Jul 2025 #58
Anyone can claim they are RN on the internet, I wouldn't get my hopes doc03 Jul 2025 #59
But greater than 10 in the thread? scipan Jul 2025 #62
I have a BA in English, and I believe that qualifies me to diagnose him as a vile fuckhead Orrex Jul 2025 #60
Of COURSE he knows he's on borrowed time. no_hypocrisy Jul 2025 #61
Remember Trump's first annual physical Deminpenn Jul 2025 #63
Here's an article cally Jul 2025 #88
Thanks was just about to post the same link Deminpenn Jul 2025 #89
More links to the prior heart issues from 2018 Deminpenn Jul 2025 #90
The make-up is the weird thing Bluetus Jul 2025 #64
He definitely has some cardio/circulatory problem he's being treated for indusurb Jul 2025 #66
I, for one, do not CARE what he has, so long as he quits wasting oxygen. niyad Jul 2025 #68
Hear, hear! Hugin Jul 2025 #71
+1 dalton99a Jul 2025 #83
Worthless "diagnosis" ... nt Raine Jul 2025 #70
Love one of the posts - Sending Clots and Prayers! GoneOffShore Jul 2025 #72
Oh yea you can diagnose from a distance. As a retired nurse, I called it years ago. It's CHF. flying_wahini Jul 2025 #77
Be nice to have comment from MD Bluestocking Jul 2025 #78
Interesting post that you presented in a very balanced way. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2025 #79
I don't care what's wrong with him; but it's apparent that something is, Ocelot II Jul 2025 #80
It could be CHF, but I wouldn't bet on it Jersey Devil Jul 2025 #81
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2025 #82
Perfect! Nt scipan Jul 2025 #86
My spouse and a friend got over the ankle swelling once their HBP got under control wishstar Jul 2025 #85
Frankly Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #87
I learned things. Demobrat Jul 2025 #92
This is what I was coming to post, sort of misanthrope Jul 2025 #93
Problem with people like Trump...Hell doesn't want them. Xolodno Jul 2025 #95
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