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55. I'm so sorry you ran into that. I agree that business types, suits, are often both too contemptuous of artists, and

Mon Dec 29, 2025, 07:46 PM

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terribly resentful/envious of them. I remember producer Rick Beato doing a video some time back about a young band he knew whose very promising first album was messed up by an interfering A&R man. The same thing can happen in all the arts. If the suits have made the decision to invest in talent - if spending a lot of money on that talent seemed like a good idea - then they should get the hell out of the artist's way. They shouldn't let either contempt toward the artist, or some stupid and egotistical idea that that they'll express their own artistic creativity through directing the artist's work, mess everything up. At least not if the artist is staying true to the type of work that led to the business investment in the first place, holding up their end of the bargain.

I saw representatives of the completely misnamed Big Tech lobbying group the "Chamber of Progress" on X a couple of years ago doing all they could to try to turn people against real artists who objected to their work having been stolen to train AI. Trying to make people view real artists as nasty elite "gatekeepers" who didn't want other people to become artists, which is the reverse of the truth. I saw one of these shills for the AI companies, a lawyer, whining that his parents hadn't bought him a guitar when he was young so he never had the chance to become a rock star that those privileged real musicians had (apparently he'd never heard of any real musicians whose families were poor). So that terribly discriminated-against lawyer and AI shill wanted all the unskilled wannabes to know they were being liberated by AI companies, now that AI tools could instantly let them become musicians, visual artists and writers. I'm surprised they didn't have an AI version of We Shall Overcome for their liberation movement.

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If you support unions (DUers should) but still think it's OK to post AI slop, see the hundreds of Bluesky replies [View all] highplainsdem Dec 29 OP

A lot of AI is ridiculously obvious; but some are not. hlthe2b Dec 29 #1

Oops, wrong reply mike_c Dec 29 #4

I saved my reply to yours, if you want to repost your "don't throw out the baby with the bath water" highplainsdem Dec 29 #9

I know. But we have people here who are knowingly posting AI slop as if it's somehow a plus on a highplainsdem Dec 29 #6

True -- and I'm pretty confident that was the root purpose of this OP. KPN Dec 29 #35

So easy to spot, so awful. I've tried a few YouTube short NewHendoLib Dec 29 #2

And those AI-slop documentaries are flooding YouTube now, making it harder and harder to find real highplainsdem Dec 29 #16

And a lot of the AI slop that we see on social media PatSeg Dec 29 #23

As far as the ones that are less obvious.. mdbl Dec 29 #30

That's interesting PatSeg Dec 29 #36

Is this video from George Conway real or fake? Renew Deal Dec 29 #59

Fake, and it's labeled "Altered or synthetic content" on the video thumbnail, and the YouTube channel highplainsdem Dec 29 #63

This very upsetting, Highplainsdem!! brakester Tuesday #67

That youtube channel isn't affiliated with Conway at all. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #68

Disclaimer brakester Wednesday #84

Kick SheltieLover Dec 29 #3

Thanks! highplainsdem Dec 29 #17

Yw SheltieLover Dec 29 #21

K&R. Thanks for your work. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 29 #5

You're welcome! Thanks for everything you've posted about this, too. highplainsdem Dec 29 #10

r&k MerryBlooms Dec 29 #7

Thank you! highplainsdem Dec 29 #18

Excellent responses in that thread. progressoid Dec 29 #8

I'll Second That! ProfessorGAC Dec 29 #13

Hundreds. There should be a link to see more replies when you get to the end of the first batch. highplainsdem Dec 29 #19

I Thought I Did ProfessorGAC Dec 29 #22

You have to click on her post here highplainsdem Dec 29 #24

I Did ProfessorGAC Dec 29 #41

Aren't they, though? As much as she upset her own union members and left them feeling betrayed, their highplainsdem Dec 29 #14

Generated AI for content is slop...but AI technology is here to stay and will continue to exponentially grow. Melon Dec 29 #11

GenAI is a technological dead end, inherently flawed with hallucinations, fundamentally unethical because of highplainsdem Dec 29 #12

Agreed on the ethics part of it but GenAI isn't going anywhere either. The bubble will burst but there will be survivors FascismIsDeath Tuesday #76

There's enough of a backlash already that I think we can reach a point where it's considered highplainsdem Tuesday #79

Yea I think you're giving our citizens way too much credit. FascismIsDeath Wednesday #81

I'm just going off what I've read and heard, but based on that, I'm expecting more and highplainsdem Wednesday #83

Oh yea, it definitely causes problems. FascismIsDeath Thursday #85

Microplastics are here to stay as well, doesn't mean we shouldn't try to eat less of them. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 29 #15

Right! highplainsdem Dec 29 #20

So what? Cirsium Dec 29 #26

You can be against anything...like the protest over cars versus buggy's Melon Dec 29 #50

Horrible Cirsium Dec 29 #52

No it's not. The race for AI dominance is driving all the market volatility we see... Melon Dec 29 #64

It's a bubble Cirsium Tuesday #66

No country is going to get to AGI, let alone ASI, building more data centers for genAI, which is the highplainsdem Dec 29 #58

Somebody tell Thom Hartman Bobstandard Dec 29 #25

Has he changed it recently? Cirsium Dec 29 #28

He shouldn't be using AI. It's an insult to real musicians and helps only AI bros. He could ask his highplainsdem Dec 29 #40

DU ain't as pro-union as it likes to think it is. LudwigPastorius Dec 29 #27

Well, we're all endangered by genAI now, and even if DUers aren't in unions, they need to understand highplainsdem Dec 29 #33

Opposing that bill didn't have anything to do with being anti-union EarlG Dec 29 #37

Thanks for explaining! Just googled the date for that and it was back when caregiving and highplainsdem Dec 29 #42

I disagree, and I'm not going to argue , but I will say... LudwigPastorius Dec 29 #43

I'm not opposed to meaningful legislation that would stem the tide of copyrighted works online EarlG Dec 29 #46

As I've told other DUers who were professional musicians, we'd love to hear your music, if you highplainsdem Dec 29 #61

SOPA awful though Polybius Dec 29 #62

Thanks Cirsium Dec 29 #29

You're very welcome! Thanks for the reply! highplainsdem Dec 29 #44

What worries me The Madcap Dec 29 #31

It's insane for companies to risk their own data that way. But I've never seen as much hype to highplainsdem Dec 29 #45

Feel like we should bring back the un-rec experiment nilram Dec 29 #32

Why would you want to unrec a post about how union members and supporters feel about AI slop? If highplainsdem Dec 29 #34

Wasn't clear: wanting to unrec AI slop, not this thread. nilram Dec 29 #48

Thanks for explaining! I'm relieved to hear that's what you meant. highplainsdem Dec 29 #51

Kicked for visibility. Seems our species denial of unintended consequences KPN Dec 29 #38

Thanks! And I agree that entirely too many people are unable to see or deliberately ignoring all the highplainsdem Dec 29 #47

I have earned my living... GiqueCee Dec 29 #39

I'm so sorry you ran into that. I agree that business types, suits, are often both too contemptuous of artists, and highplainsdem Dec 29 #55

Wow...I missed this...i guess bc I'm not really following stuff closely, being out of the field.... electric_blue68 Tuesday #73

I could hardly believe how vicious the "Chamber of Progress" people were when talking about highplainsdem Tuesday #74

Lord knows, most artists are not wealthy! electric_blue68 Tuesday #75

Astute business sense... GiqueCee Wednesday #82

As a former graphic designer, and sometimes illustrator, when not doing clerical work, and long time artist of 55+ yrs.. electric_blue68 Tuesday #72

I wish you the best of luck with the new painting, and I think the disgust with AI slop and the backlash highplainsdem Tuesday #77

Thanks for this breakdown, and for your good wishes! electric_blue68 Tuesday #80

"Anyone can be an artist now!" - AI Tech Bros Oneironaut Thursday #86

Would that the subject matter be in a glass jar, controlled. cachukis Dec 29 #49

I'm outraged... WarGamer Dec 29 #53

I'm amused that you think that's a good reply countering what all those people were saying. But hey, highplainsdem Dec 29 #56

No way to block it on here, is there? TommyT139 Dec 29 #54

A forum just for posting AI slop and talking about how wonderful AI is would be an even worse look highplainsdem Dec 29 #57

Block what? Renew Deal Dec 29 #60

Add AI "artwork" to that list, I'd say (nt) Orrex Tuesday #78

kick highplainsdem Tuesday #65

Kick electric_blue68 Tuesday #69

Thanks! highplainsdem Tuesday #70

YW electric_blue68 Tuesday #71

I'm a creative, I'll never support the use of "AI" for any reason. None at all. mucholderthandirt Friday #87