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senseandsensibility

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102. Two things can be true at once

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 02:11 PM

Jan 22

Dems should have held a press conference that was targeted on the facts you describe YESTERDAY when the situation was unfolding in Davos. Today is too late. The press has moved on; they missed the moment. It is also true that there is no guarantee it will be covered, at least not as well as we would wish. Still. they have to try.

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Have Schumer and Jefferies forgotten how to hold a press conference? [View all] Chasstev365 Jan 22 OP

Whatever they ARE doing, it's not enough. It's ridiculous they aren't capitalizing on this moment of abject madness by LymphocyteLover Jan 22 #1

I agree. Alliepoo Jan 22 #92

Schumer and Jeffries can't believe what good luck they're having bucolic_frolic Jan 22 #2

People are gonna vote for a party led by the "timid". AloeVera Jan 22 #6

Yeah, because timidity has been such a triumph for Democrats, all these years. Paladin Jan 22 #18

Post removed Post removed Jan 22 #44

They're still "keeping the powder dry". Still. FoxNewsSucks Jan 22 #168

Making themselves a target for MAGA and FauxNoise does nothing bucolic_frolic Jan 22 #88

Making themselves a target? Cirsium Jan 22 #98

I don't think they're exercising sound strategy. Alliepoo Jan 22 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author Javaman Jan 22 #23

Why did any dem vote for any of TSF's nominees? n/t returnee Jan 22 #71

exactly. nt Javaman Jan 22 #72

Good question. NT Bozvotros Jan 22 #118

I think you're confusing him with Se. Cory Booker.. people in the House don't vote to approve apointees. LymphocyteLover Jan 22 #111

THANK YOU. maxsolomon Jan 22 #124

I stand corrected. I will pull my thread. :) nt Javaman Jan 22 #137

The Supreme Court's decision to allow unlimited campaign donations and dark money Bozvotros Jan 22 #117

No, Hakeem Jeffries did not vote to confirm Kushner as ambassador to France. lapucelle Jan 22 #125

I know that's their strategy but I don't agree with it. yardwork Jan 22 #33

If timid was the right strategy, he would never have gotten a Tadpole Raisin Jan 22 #43

i think this is milquetoast. Hieronymus Phact Jan 22 #46

Yeah, right choie Jan 22 #61

True.. agingdem Jan 22 #67

Wishful thinking Cirsium Jan 22 #101

So we are fighting Trump/Republicans with Quietness & Timidity? OK, Got it! Ars Longa Jan 22 #69

Agreed. RoseTrellis Jan 22 #80

Absurd Cirsium Jan 22 #104

I get it, but... SpankMe Jan 22 #83

This is NOT a sound strategy. How about talking about compassion, empathy and pounding on the moral compass? n/t PatrickforB Jan 22 #84

I think you forgot the Alliepoo Jan 22 #93

That is the problem Cirsium Jan 22 #94

You answered your own question with Soul_of_Wit Jan 22 #96

The flip side of that line of thought is Dems need to peak in November, not now. bucolic_frolic Jan 22 #100

Peak? Cirsium Jan 22 #103

Yes, I'm sure that's what they are doing but as others here have pointed out, that safe strategy is not enough for our LymphocyteLover Jan 22 #113

Because that strategy was SO successful in 2024 . . . markpkessinger Jan 22 #123

I agree with this, however oldmanlynn Jan 23 #176

There's an old saying SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #3

And, the fact that they are also shooting other people while they are shooting themselves in the foot is okay? OldBaldy1701E Jan 22 #24

So what is the solution? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #73

Obvious Cirsium Jan 22 #108

Can you be more specific? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #120

About what? Cirsium Jan 22 #141

About stopping Trump and republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #143

The sea lion is here. Scrivener7 Jan 22 #150

If there are better spokespeople JBTaurus83 Jan 22 #57

Two different skill sets SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #75

Press the advantage Cirsium Jan 22 #105

How? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #119

LOL Cirsium Jan 22 #156

How do they press the advantage? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #157

Addressed elsewhere Cirsium Jan 22 #161

Where? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #163

Why? Cirsium Jan 23 #178

Because you said above SocialDemocrat61 Jan 23 #180

What's the old saying for when they're murdering Americans with impunity? Scrivener7 Jan 22 #127

They are not shooting anyone in the foot. They are shooting people in the eye and in the face. Autumn Jan 22 #130

And what is your solution? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #132

What is yours? Please be specific. Scrivener7 Jan 22 #134

Nice deflection SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #135

Can I solve this? What kind of moronic question is that? Of course I can't. Scrivener7 Jan 22 #140

Maybe because every suggestion is to blame democrats SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #142

Every single suggestion. Every single time. Scrivener7 Jan 22 #144

And what are they? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #145

'When your enemy is shooting themself in the foot, let them and don't get in the way'. Rigpa108 Jan 23 #179

So what should they be doing? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 23 #181

I know what they should NOT be doing... Rigpa108 Jan 25 #183

But they aren't doing nothing SocialDemocrat61 Jan 25 #184

I think... myohmy2 Jan 22 #4

And the files.... Have to remember that Epstein was a big Democratic Party supporter and financial guy. LiberalArkie Jan 22 #19

Get another job, then. JBTaurus83 Jan 22 #59

What makes you think those who aren't paying attention JI7 Jan 22 #5

Nothing Ventured,...... Etc. ColoringFool Jan 22 #28

You're gonna get scolded for your lack of faith Orrex Jan 22 #7

Can you give us a recap of today's press conference and your thoughts on it? W_HAMILTON Jan 22 #110

It called"just let him rave and rant" strategy. Ray Bruns Jan 22 #8

I think nine years of rope should be sufficient - werdna Jan 22 #17

He's in the office because someone's eggs were supposedly to expensive. (Which is bullshit). Ray Bruns Jan 22 #48

Yeah, No. More Like A Bungee Cord. ColoringFool Jan 22 #30

Yeah choie Jan 22 #63

They are keeping all of Bettie Jan 22 #9

Or maybe these guys just aren't that smart. Bluetus Jan 22 #90

I don't know what is up with it all Bettie Jan 22 #95

Citizen's United isn't just for Republicans Bluetus Jan 22 #133

Exactly correct Bettie Jan 22 #147

"Oh Bullwinkle, that strongly worded letter never works" gay texan Jan 22 #10

Fan mail Cirsium Jan 22 #107

Something is very wrong with the Dem leadership right now. Baitball Blogger Jan 22 #11

Equal Opportunity Epstein Files? 🤔 🧐 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷‍♀️🤷 ColoringFool Jan 22 #31

Fuck speeches, gab13by13 Jan 22 #12

With things this bad, this dangerous in our country democrank Jan 22 #13

DemDUer's with absolute opposite opinions- in the end I sure hope we all pull on the same rope. NoMoreRepugs Jan 22 #14

We will angrychair Jan 22 #64

No choice Cirsium Jan 22 #112

Yes, every single day! n/t werdna Jan 22 #15

They are good back room leaders, not charismatic Johonny Jan 22 #16

Gavin. AOC. MIA: Obama, Big Bill, Gore, Dean, HRC..... ColoringFool Jan 22 #34

We will win - because victory will come to us in due time - if we pray hard and wait long enough. dalton99a Jan 22 #20

I've Been Waiting Since, Oh, 1963. ColoringFool Jan 22 #36

Jeffries says God is still on the Throne! JBTaurus83 Jan 22 #60

Well, God did outlast Hitler and He will outlast Trump. dalton99a Jan 22 #62

Fair point JBTaurus83 Jan 22 #66

I don't remember god climbing down off his throne to help the people the Nazis murdered. Autumn Jan 22 #131

Cory Booker Gingermolly Jan 22 #21

I think they are waiting. Autumn Jan 22 #22

in a time when we are surrounded by madness... Javaman Jan 22 #25

Ah, the magic fighting spirit press conference that Americans huddled 'round the TV like in the '60s betsuni Jan 22 #26

Well, There WAS That "I Have A Dream" Speech. Plus,... ColoringFool Jan 22 #37

Not press conferences. betsuni Jan 22 #149

Waiting for the "rope" portion of the 'rope-a-dope' program? 🤷‍♀️ littlemissmartypants Jan 22 #27

IMO Abstractartist Jan 22 #29

I agree. BUT 4bonhoffer Jan 22 #32

Then Our Guys Need To Actually CHALLENGE THE MEDIA, DARE THEM TO ... ColoringFool Jan 22 #39

Post removed Post removed Jan 22 #35

Wrong word. Easterncedar Jan 22 #54

pussies are TOUGH Skittles Jan 22 #172

LAME "LEADERS" Clouds Passing Jan 22 #38

Just what we need. murielm99 Jan 22 #40

There is a legitimate disagreement Cirsium Jan 22 #114

I don't much care for murielm99 Jan 22 #121

Fine Cirsium Jan 22 #138

Makes me appreciate and support Democrats all the more! betsuni Jan 22 #152

Absolutely LittleGirl Jan 22 #41

I don't think seeing them wobble around is going to be very inspiring LR3 Jan 22 #42

There are lots of Dems in both houses who would be much tougher than those two. ratchiweenie Jan 22 #45

Should be out there every DAMN DAY, especially Jefferies Joinfortmill Jan 22 #47

+1. Seriously. What the fuck are they doing? dalton99a Jan 22 #51

Think they will slowly ramp up as we get into Spring. Citizens attention span is as long as a hummingbirds wing flap n/t Cheezoholic Jan 22 #49

Good grief. 🙄🥱 QueerDuck Jan 22 #50

Pot meet kettle Cirsium Jan 22 #115

Oh, really? Tell me more. QueerDuck Jan 22 #116

No thanks Cirsium Jan 22 #154

Yeah, I figured as much. 🙄 QueerDuck Jan 22 #155

New definition of "divisive": supporting Democrats. betsuni Jan 22 #159

I do too. It's BS. It stinks. Sigh. QueerDuck Jan 22 #164

sound advice during normal times Skittles Jan 22 #173

K&R spanone Jan 22 #52

Timid gets us every other election when we should be Tadpole Raisin Jan 22 #53

Could not agree more karin_sj Jan 22 #55

I'm very proud of we the people JBTaurus83 Jan 22 #56

Pelosi held regular conferences at least during Covid ALBliberal Jan 22 #58

Not a Cuomo fan, but I appreciated his daily pressers during Covid JonAndKatePlusABird Jan 22 #68

Same. ALBliberal Jan 22 #81

When your enemy is making a mistake, don't interrupt him. hay rick Jan 22 #65

Would you feel this same way justaprogressive Jan 22 #70

It looks to me like Sun Tzu agrees with me (and himself since I borrowed his point). hay rick Jan 22 #77

DURec leftstreet Jan 22 #74

So many topics to cover. Unambiguous topics! yellow dahlia Jan 22 #76

I think leadership and the consultant class... OneGrassRoot Jan 22 #78

Consultant advice so far seems to be silence and prayerful meditation. dalton99a Jan 22 #82

Morning rant. TALK IS CHEAP. Show me the action. usonian Jan 22 #79

It is sad Quanto Magnus Jan 22 #85

If we are to win the midterms Scubamatt Jan 22 #86

It's a losing strategy to be quiet and timid danieljsf Jan 22 #87

Au contraire , They want to talk about bipartisanship to solve the affordability crisis. flashman13 Jan 22 #89

Ironic that as Jeffries is giving a press conference right now, no one here is talking about it. W_HAMILTON Jan 22 #91

"Maybe those that wanted a press conference so badly can start a live thread here now to discuss it?" LudwigPastorius Jan 22 #97

Hear, hear BaronChocula Jan 22 #109

Then it's "Finally breaking their silence" -- they totally want a press conference, just not THAT press conference. betsuni Jan 22 #148

Exactly right. Next it will be "all they do is whine and complain at press conferences" along with... QueerDuck Jan 23 #182

Two things can be true at once senseandsensibility Jan 22 #102

Here creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #106

Thank you. betsuni Jan 22 #160

Never let the facts SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #171

Probably keeping their powder dry. malthaussen Jan 22 #122

... orangecrush Jan 22 #146

that's why we are not in power. trump would have been spouting crap and lies, but he samsingh Jan 22 #126

Spineless! Useless! North Coast Lawyer Jan 22 #128

Apparently they are. Evolve Dammit Jan 22 #129

Holding a press conference would take more courage than either one of them has. red dog 1 Jan 22 #136

They're discussing it with Merrick Garland as we speak. Lucky Luciano Jan 22 #139

The lack of leadership is unbelievable!! Both can go as far as I'm concerned. Pisces Jan 22 #151

Maybe Groundhawg Jan 22 #153

But then they'd have to take a position on something. DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 22 #158

They learned their triangulation from the best... regnaD kciN Jan 22 #162

Then lose in 2028 and wonder why, mr715 Jan 22 #166

Exactly. And as one of those liberals FoxNewsSucks Jan 22 #169

Clear from this thread that nobody knows flamingdem Jan 22 #165

Oh, dear. Someone suggested that the leadership do more in the face of the existential crisis Scrivener7 Jan 22 #167

Did they EVER 'KNOW how to hold one' in this particular situation ??? Jack Valentino Jan 22 #170

Exactly VGuerra276 Jan 22 #174

Schumer and Jeffries are passive pushovers flying-skeleton Jan 23 #175

Bravo! Bread and Circuses Jan 23 #177