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EarlG

(23,591 posts) Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:28 PM Jan 24

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So let me get this straight [View all]

If you are a white, middle-aged man with a legal concealed-carry permit, who happens to be exercising your Second Amendment right to carry a firearm, then:

a) If federal agents find that holstered firearm on you in the course of wrestling you to the ground, they can shoot you dead even if you are not brandishing the firearm, your hands are empty, and you are already incapacitated.

b) The federal government will immediately, without an investigation, say the fact that you were exercising your Second Amendment right means that you are a domestic terrorist who was plotting to assassinate agents and wanted to commit a massacre.

I'll go on record saying that I'm not a pro-Second Amendment person and I think that strong gun control is the way to go. But what the feds are doing in this case is a gun-grabber fantasy the left could never even dream of.

The last time DHS smeared a US citizen who was murdered by ICE, it was an uppity lesbian who was annoying a cop by being nice to him. No fucks given on the right there, I'm sure. But how will they feel when DHS tells them that the concealed weapon they love to carry means that they're fair game to be shot by unaccountable feds anytime, anyplace, anywhere, after which the feds will smear them as domestic terrorists and cop-killers just because they were carrying?

This is Trump's base we're talking about here. How deep can the cognitive dissonance get before something snaps?

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So let me get this straight [View all] EarlG Jan 24 OP

When you consider orangecrush Jan 24 #1

the MAGA gun humpers won't care lapfog_1 Jan 24 #2

ICE & law enforcement are just vehicles to fulfill their raging need to punish the left SunImp Jan 24 #40

The Constitution of the United States is dead. Justice matters. Jan 24 #3

I think it's already snapping... buzzycrumbhunger Jan 24 #4

Was curious about it BaronChocula Jan 24 #35

Pedestrians Have the Right of Way. MineralMan Jan 24 #5

Thinking about you today Cirsium Jan 24 #37

They know how to respond to the dog whistle... EarthFirst Jan 24 #6

It's hard to believe the subject would have been able to pull a gun surfered Jan 24 #7

The gun had already been removed from his holster and taken away Lulu KC Jan 24 #8

And he had just been blasted in the face catchnrelease Jan 24 #23

And he was wearing a zipped-up, mid-thigh length winter parka, making it really difficult to go for his waistband sop Jan 24 #16

I don't think they'll be able to weather this assassination in the street bigtree Jan 24 #9

This is clearly an assault on the First Amendment right to protest, in any way, by anyone Trump views as "the enemy." sop Jan 24 #17

Pretti was killed catchnrelease Jan 24 #25

Listening to Walz this is a civil war. Klarkashton Jan 24 #10

Yeah, but not enough are listening. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jan 25 #56

How deep can the cognitive dissonance get before something snaps? drmeow Jan 24 #11

Kick dalton99a Jan 24 #12

"How deep can the cognitive dissonance get before something snaps?" As deep as the ingrained pathological narrative sits ancianita Jan 24 #13

"If only Stalin knew!!!" - THAT'S how deep the cognitive dissonance is. hatrack Jan 24 #14

Yup, Fuck 'em. The rest of us need to stay strong and push back. Joinfortmill Jan 24 #32

Absolutely. It was never really about the 2nd Amendment. peppertree Jan 24 #15

& LIBRULL/PROGRESSIVE/ALTERNATIVE "Dilutes" Whiteness ForeGoneLegsBirne Jan 24 #33

I think it is purposeful..... usedtobedemgurl Jan 24 #18

The cognitive dissonance is infinitely deep angrychair Jan 24 #19

The Five Reasons Wars Happen littlemissmartypants Jan 24 #20

Two words: Kyle Rittenhouse Wednesdays Jan 24 #21

Who knows, maybe he joined ICE. Dulcinea Jan 24 #28

He'll never go hungry though, that's for sure. Wednesdays Jan 24 #30

It's not cognitive dissonance. LuvLoogie Jan 24 #22

Great point creeksneakers2 Jan 24 #24

Excellent point. We shall see. TickTock. Joinfortmill Jan 24 #26

This is great, but as I'm reading this I'm also thinking.... Native Jan 24 #27

The cognitive dissonance is that the ICE-goons get to have it both ways ... always FakeNoose Jan 24 #29

gun humpers have been warning about tyranny as long as I can remember Skittles Jan 24 #31

His base thinks the phone vids are AI lies. Brenda Jan 24 #34

Major setback for 2A sanity, possibly fatal gulliver Jan 24 #36

They don't believe the rules apply to them JustAnotherGen Jan 24 #38

This is an excellent point herding cats Jan 24 #39

Unlimited? But won't it be handy to have such a precedent.. lostnfound Jan 24 #41

Well now they are murdering white people - will magats give a rats ass? tazcat Jan 24 #42

I don't think they will care until it is one of them Tree Lady Jan 25 #45

They will wrap the propaganda and pain into a tangled web, that is nonsensical. yellow dahlia Jan 24 #43

Trump's base loves this iemanja Jan 24 #44

Yet it seems it was ok for Kyle Rittenhouse. Nt Figarosmom Jan 25 #46

ICE uses a two-prong test in determining who should be summarily executed. John1956PA Jan 25 #47

I actually think this incident has the potential to cause some fracturing among the 2A MAGA base and the... Ol Janx Spirit Jan 25 #48

This could easily happen to an off duty or retired cop in addition to civilians Historic NY Jan 25 #49

I Don't Think That The Reason This Man Was Killed DallasNE Jan 25 #50

I Hope the Base Knows what went on... Cha Jan 25 #51

Their "principles" have been shown to be a sham. They believe in us vs them and that's it unblock Jan 25 #52

Dear 2A Republican voters: this Trumpy government is the tyranny you've been warning us about. Beartracks Jan 25 #53

I think Stephen Miller wants some killings so the people riot, and Trump can say he's saving the country Doodley Jan 25 #54

Not sure it will snap RetiredParatrooper Jan 25 #55

Everyone who supports the Magatocracy has already completely snapped. ananda Jan 25 #57

It'll only become a problem if one of the magas gets shot and killed Javaman Jan 25 #58

Agreed seta1950 Jan 25 #59

"Let 'em through. They aren't here to get me" Rose Siding Jan 26 #60