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TiberiusB

(525 posts)
47. Yes, the "multiple wrongs make a right" attitude is something
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 10:59 AM
23 hrs ago

Not to mention, the obvious assumption that Al Franken did something wrong, despite the highly questionable nature of the awfully conveniently timed accusations.
Mother Jones did a write up on that:

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/07/defending-al-franken-for-real/

While we may never know if any of those events actually happened, the fact that they never came up before the Tweeden accusation, no one can corroborate any of them with any hard evidence or even impartial witnesses, despite supposedly happening in public, and the women all went silent the second he stepped down, makes it all highly suspect.

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Has Warren? Has Sanders? Has Booker? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #1
i thought it was one picture samsingh Yesterday #6
No SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #7
And those accusations were absurd PatSeg Yesterday #18
Hannity and Stone were only involved with the first accuser SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #25
"Franken is doing fine"? PatSeg Yesterday #30
Is he broke and homeless? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #33
It's not how he is doing that is the issue; it's that the electorate was denied one of the best senators ever. Amaryllis Yesterday #41
First he could have run again but hasn't SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #43
Thank you!!! Eom Karma13612 18 hrs ago #89
It's not about him, it's about us. We are missing out. Pompoy 19 hrs ago #83
How? SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #85
That isn't the measure MadameButterfly 15 hrs ago #112
Maybe so SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #114
He regrets stepping down MadameButterfly 15 hrs ago #116
I'm sure he does SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #117
No, I will not let it go. He did NOTHING wrong. Ferrets are Cool 23 hrs ago #44
Republicans, and some Democrats, have done far worse SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #46
It was a comedy skit..eom Karma13612 17 hrs ago #93
Yes the picture was SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #101
OK... eom Karma13612 1 hr ago #127
Interesting that he lives in NYC now. SunSeeker 19 hrs ago #79
He could have run for mayor SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #81
Gillibrand was just re-elected in 2024. Quiet Em 19 hrs ago #84
She flamed out running Karma13612 17 hrs ago #92
She got over one million more votes for Senator than the con artist did at the top of the ticket. Quiet Em 17 hrs ago #94
I'm in NYS Karma13612 17 hrs ago #96
If Schumer retires, AOC will run for his seat. Quiet Em 17 hrs ago #98
That's true SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #102
She managed a photo op? MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #105
More than one SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #113
Where are the "eight others" now? MorbidButterflyTat 16 hrs ago #104
They probably have SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #110
That's the false narrative iemanja 14 hrs ago #118
Five Democratic Senators who urged Al to resign ran for President in 2020 DFW Yesterday #11
Harris did get to be VP in 20 SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #13
Indeed she did DFW Yesterday #14
But Gillibrand was the loudest and shriekiest Jilly_in_VA Yesterday #37
Harris was not far behind. DFW 21 hrs ago #61
Whataboutism. Jilly_in_VA 20 hrs ago #65
She definitely took credit for it lame54 19 hrs ago #78
YES, she will MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #106
My senator in Oregon did to but he came Tree Lady 23 hrs ago #54
I'm not so sure he even intended to run for president DFW 21 hrs ago #59
I guess people just hoped he would Tree Lady 20 hrs ago #66
There was PLENTY of that DFW 20 hrs ago #70
Several Democratic Senators have since apologized to him for their statements urging him to resign. DFW 21 hrs ago #60
They were not the only ones. iemanja 14 hrs ago #121
Only ONE person caused Al Franken to quit. 31st Street Bridge Yesterday #28
Oh, sure DFW 21 hrs ago #62
No, I don't; but a family member does 31st Street Bridge 20 hrs ago #64
So do I DFW 20 hrs ago #68
We need fighters, not people who are going to surrender when the going gets tough 31st Street Bridge 20 hrs ago #71
He was 66 with a deteriorating hip condition with over 40 Democratic Senators who were there to back him up DFW 19 hrs ago #74
Amy Klobuchar didn't even defend him. SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #76
It must have been awful for him. AloeVera 17 hrs ago #97
Schumer was one of two final insults DFW 17 hrs ago #99
Did you ever consider that maybe Al was guilty? 31st Street Bridge 28 min ago #131
Seems the current administration can withstand any attack 31st Street Bridge 31 min ago #129
I don't think that's fair SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #75
Bullshit MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #107
More like he deserted our party 31st Street Bridge 30 min ago #130
Gillibrand led the charge RVN VET71 3 hrs ago #124
Making a Facebook post is leading the charge? SocialDemocrat61 2 hrs ago #125
GREAT POINT MoseShrute Yesterday #2
Thank you. She certainly led the charge and ginned-up others to follow. QueerDuck Yesterday #3
Actually it was Schumer who led the charge SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #9
I'm aware of his role too. She was the face of it all... QueerDuck Yesterday #10
The corporate media made her the face of it SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #12
So she played into the hands of the "corporate media" ... interesting take. QueerDuck Yesterday #24
No it's those who continue to attack her and only her SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #32
I will always defend him and stand up to the bullies who characterize his resignation as ... QueerDuck Yesterday #38
Never said that his resignation was SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #40
So by not recognizing the saboteurs and denying their motives... QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #51
So every woman that accused him was a saboteur? SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #52
What about his apology for giving people reason to mistrust him? EdmondDantes_ 22 hrs ago #58
The damage had been done. Do do otherwise, even if justified, would have been to prolong an... QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #91
The root cause is still Franken then EdmondDantes_ 17 hrs ago #95
. MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #108
That is how I recall it PatSeg Yesterday #21
You are correct. There was much more going on. I remember, too. QueerDuck Yesterday #27
And to make matters even worse, PatSeg Yesterday #35
Hear, hear. peppertree Yesterday #39
Yes, it wasn't so much about sexual misconduct, PatSeg 22 hrs ago #55
Why are you unwilling to accept Franken's account in which he blames Schumer? delisen 22 hrs ago #57
Yes, he was on her bandwagon, as I've said. The damage was done, and had he not piled on, it would have... QueerDuck 18 hrs ago #90
I don, t believe I made the point you are attributing to me.nt delisen 17 hrs ago #100
K & R malaise Yesterday #4
Good question samsingh Yesterday #5
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #8
No MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #15
I see the "blame the woman" narrative endures Sympthsical Yesterday #16
My point is she was more concerned about taking down a political rival than protecting women. Chasstev365 Yesterday #17
But you're singling her out Sympthsical Yesterday #19
Because she used a situation to eliminate Franken purely as a political rival: NOT COOL! Chasstev365 Yesterday #22
So just going to ignore entirely what I said Sympthsical Yesterday #31
I didn't miss your point; I simply don't agree with you! Chasstev365 Yesterday #34
Where is the evidence of that? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #36
https://apnews.com/article/kirsten-gillibrand-andrew-cuomo-al-franken-resignation-a3735f0f78ed6a8949b34cbc82239023 Chasstev365 23 hrs ago #48
That article doesn't prove your accusation SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #49
"Eventually." She did NOT rush to judgement like she did with Franken. I just proved the point! Chasstev365 23 hrs ago #50
She and 38 other Senators took almost a month from the first accusation SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #53
Political rival? karynnj 23 hrs ago #45
Politcal rival? Quiet Em 21 hrs ago #63
Don't confuse them with facts SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #67
I don't even understand where that logic comes from. Quiet Em 20 hrs ago #69
There is no logic in demonization SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #73
"Them"? MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #109
Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 15 hrs ago #115
NEVER! Clouds Passing Yesterday #20
WILL NEVER FORGIVE HER OR FORGET..... a kennedy Yesterday #23
Look at all the whataboutism here Fullduplexxx Yesterday #26
Yes, the "multiple wrongs make a right" attitude is something TiberiusB 23 hrs ago #47
Here is Jane Meyer's story suegeo 22 hrs ago #56
Due process is a judicial standard SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #72
You betcha... PCIntern Yesterday #29
Who is your Senator? Quiet Em 23 hrs ago #42
As a Minnesotan . . . Scubamatt 19 hrs ago #77
Will you ever forgive Bernie Sanders? Jose Garcia 19 hrs ago #80
Will you ever forgive Kamala Harris? Jose Garcia 19 hrs ago #82
She was definitely the loudest. Kingofalldems 18 hrs ago #86
Thank you! Chasstev365 18 hrs ago #87
The women-blaming narrative requires putting the blame on her iemanja 14 hrs ago #120
Yes, women should be quiet, especially when sexual harassment is being discussed Jose Garcia 1 hr ago #128
Nice one!!!! I'll second that!!! Karma13612 18 hrs ago #88
It was such an OBVIOUS right wing smear MorbidButterflyTat 16 hrs ago #103
Ditto. I will never support Gillibrand in any way shape or form. I even called up her office and told her staffers that PatrickforB 15 hrs ago #111
Bernie too? Kamala? iemanja 14 hrs ago #119
Absolutely Al graycampervan 11 hrs ago #122
No, that was Ted Kennedy SocialDemocrat61 2 hrs ago #126
Gillibrand BGRD 7 hrs ago #123
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