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Ol Janx Spirit

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46. They have every right to feel resentment towards America and the west, but that doesn't justify...
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 03:00 PM
3 hrs ago

...attacking us, nor does it mean that we should sit back and take it when they do.

None of that justifies the current "war" or whatever it is--I'm not saying that.

I was just saying that they have in fact been attacking us and our allies.

Interesting aside:
Brittan's (and Europe's) involvement in Iranian politics goes back further than oil. Like all things British, one of the big issues was tobacco. At the end of the Anglo-Persian war in 1857, the Qajar government was forced to grant countless concessions to foreign powers. The 1890 tobacco concession granting control over growth, sale, and export of tobacco to an Englishman, Major G. F. Talbot, set off the Persian Tobacco Protest which climaxed in a widely obeyed December 1891 fatwa against tobacco use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Protest

The first commercial discovery of oil in Iran occurred on May 26, 1908--almost 20 years after the Persian Tobacco Protest.

They could have made the choice to be a constructive part of the region after the 1979 revolution, but their decision to back Shia militancy across the region to combat Sunni influence and establish Iranian dominance in the Arab world led them to be in the position they find themselves today. It is why they find themselves with no real friends in the region willing or able to come to their aid now.

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Iran has been the big bad since Bettie 11 hrs ago #1
Women in Iran are very educated compared to many countries womanofthehills 9 hrs ago #11
What's so special about Iran is that it has 309 million barrels of oil. Irish_Dem 11 hrs ago #2
This is it exactly. mwmisses4289 11 hrs ago #3
Bingo that's why Blue Full Moon 10 hrs ago #8
Bottom line - I would also add two other elements Cosmocat 9 hrs ago #16
Yep. Trump does nothing unless it benefits him personally. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #19
They refused to allow the imperialists to control their malaise 11 hrs ago #4
Iran became "evil" in 1951, when Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh nationalized the Anglo-Iranian Oil sop 8 hrs ago #26
Well, they have claimed to want to "wipe Israel off the map"... QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #5
Under the deal negotiated by the Obama administration, they were giving up their path to any means of doing so. redgreenandblue 10 hrs ago #10
They were the second Muslim country to recognize Israel Easterncedar 8 hrs ago #23
;-{)..... Goonch 10 hrs ago #6
They fire at all nations ships right now OC375 10 hrs ago #7
They are Shia, descended from Muhammed. cachukis 10 hrs ago #9
Trump is jealous. Iran's dictatorship rules with an iron fist Martin Eden 9 hrs ago #12
You mean the land formerly known as Persia? You're right. Nothing special about it. Intractable 9 hrs ago #13
Trump: "It is the greatest killing of a Persian leader since Alexander killed Darius and took his rugs" dalton99a 8 hrs ago #30
They also fund terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas EdmondDantes_ 9 hrs ago #14
It is a head scratcher, I agree. mysteryowl 9 hrs ago #15
They have been attacking us through proxies since 1979. We cannot pretend that... Ol Janx Spirit 8 hrs ago #24
I'm just saying that if we are under attack for 40 years mysteryowl 8 hrs ago #28
I suppose that they should have just allowed the US and UK to control their country to steal their oil then? ihaveaquestion 7 hrs ago #36
They have every right to feel resentment towards America and the west, but that doesn't justify... Ol Janx Spirit 3 hrs ago #46
Saudi Arabia? displacedvermoter 7 hrs ago #37
Saudi has been cracking down on extremism Melon 6 hrs ago #39
Ok displacedvermoter 6 hrs ago #40
The 9/11 Commission found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior officials... Ol Janx Spirit 2 hrs ago #47
We live under a dictatorship..... Hope22 9 hrs ago #17
"You're foolin' yourself! We're living in a dictatorship. A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working class... Ray Bruns 8 hrs ago #20
China has made huge investments in Iran randr 9 hrs ago #18
They have oil and they defied us Easterncedar 8 hrs ago #21
Just the truth malaise 6 hrs ago #42
It's not that they are a dictatorship. It's that they are a terrorist state. Melon 8 hrs ago #22
"Iran has been developing nuclear weapons and hiding production." redgreenandblue 7 hrs ago #35
Saudi Arabia displacedvermoter 7 hrs ago #38
Not one effin country on this planet should have nuclear weapons malaise 6 hrs ago #41
Agreed....but here we are. Melon 6 hrs ago #43
OIL jonstl08 8 hrs ago #25
They sell oil without using US dollars. Chemical Bill 8 hrs ago #27
The thing about Iran is that Trump is in the Epstein files more than 1,000,000 times Blues Heron 8 hrs ago #29
The lesson the US seems to be teaching all countries is "get nukes" David__77 8 hrs ago #31
Or American hostages. dalton99a 8 hrs ago #32
They weaken KSA hegemony on oil price. JCMach1 8 hrs ago #33
We need a military base there. 617Blue 8 hrs ago #34
They took Jimmy Carter's second term from him. gulliver 5 hrs ago #44
Iran is the biggest regional power GreatGazoo 3 hrs ago #45
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