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In reply to the discussion: Kirsten Gillibrand [View all]

Ocelot II

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30. And since then many of them have said they regretted it.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 08:03 PM
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A remarkable number of Franken’s Senate colleagues have regrets about their own roles in his fall. Seven current and former U.S. senators who demanded Franken’s resignation in 2017 told me that they’d been wrong to do so. Such admissions are unusual in an institution whose members rarely concede mistakes. Patrick Leahy, the veteran Democrat from Vermont, said that his decision to seek Franken’s resignation without first getting all the facts was “one of the biggest mistakes I’ve made” in forty-five years in the Senate. Heidi Heitkamp, the former senator from North Dakota, told me, “If there’s one decision I’ve made that I would take back, it’s the decision to call for his resignation. It was made in the heat of the moment, without concern for exactly what this was.” Tammy Duckworth, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, told me that the Senate Ethics Committee “should have been allowed to move forward.” She said it was important to acknowledge the trauma that Franken’s accusers had gone through, but added, “We needed more facts. That due process didn’t happen is not good for our democracy.” Angus King, the Independent senator from Maine, said that he’d “regretted it ever since” he joined the call for Franken’s resignation. “There’s no excuse for sexual assault,” he said. “But Al deserved more of a process. I don’t denigrate the allegations, but this was the political equivalent of capital punishment.” Senator Jeff Merkley, of Oregon, told me, “This was a rush to judgment that didn’t allow any of us to fully explore what this was about. I took the judgment of my peers rather than independently examining the circumstances. In my heart, I’ve not felt right about it.” Bill Nelson, the former Florida senator, said, “I realized almost right away I’d made a mistake. I felt terrible. I should have stood up for due process to render what it’s supposed to—the truth.” Tom Udall, the senior Democratic senator from New Mexico, said, “I made a mistake. I started having second thoughts shortly after he stepped down. He had the right to be heard by an independent investigative body. I’ve heard from people around my state, and around the country, saying that they think he got railroaded. It doesn’t seem fair. I’m a lawyer. I really believe in due process.”

Former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, who watched the drama unfold from retirement, told me, “It’s terrible what happened to him. It was unfair. It took the legs out from under him. He was a very fine senator.” Many voters have also protested Franken’s decision. A Change.org petition urging Franken to retract his resignation received more than seventy-five thousand signatures. It declared, “There’s a difference between abuse and a mistake.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken

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Kirsten Gillibrand [View all] milestogo Yesterday OP
Absolutely! The Swalwell issue stinks of repuke rat fuckery. SheltieLover Yesterday #1
Even Al called for a Senate Ethics committee ivestigation. ProudMNDemocrat Yesterday #2
Tony dropped out. There is talk of kicking him out of congress. LeftInTX Yesterday #24
The 'allegations" against Franken were nothing compared to Swalwell. What Gillebrand and others Nanjeanne Yesterday #3
The allegations are serious. milestogo Yesterday #8
The "allegations against Franken were nothing, period. ananda Yesterday #18
False. Why do Franken defenders continue to say that? EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #19
Read this, and please be honest about it. Ocelot II Yesterday #28
I've read it in the past. It didn't change anything for me EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #39
Mob mentality Bluetus Yesterday #45
One of the alleged incidents occurred in 2024, but of course all of the accusations Ocelot II Yesterday #46
Would you acknowledge any of these 4 things? Bluetus 23 hrs ago #53
Any of those things are possible, which is why a thorough investigation is needed. Ocelot II 23 hrs ago #54
These things don't get better with time, though... OhioBack2Blue 9 hrs ago #59
Thank you for this! niyad 22 hrs ago #56
Franken Cirsium Yesterday #29
I mostly agree with you but not entirely jfz9580m Yesterday #50
Yes exactly. Nanjeanne Yesterday #31
Don't forget Roger Stone. vanlassie 9 hrs ago #60
She was one of many SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #4
Who was one of many what? Amaryllis Yesterday #9
39 Senators SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #11
Thank you! Amaryllis Yesterday #12
They just KNEW if they played nice and canned Franken then Republicans Bengus81 Yesterday #13
You speak of playing nice, footballs. Games, teams, and jerseys. R vs. B Maru Kitteh Yesterday #37
And since then many of them have said they regretted it. Ocelot II Yesterday #30
So? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #32
How do you know the other 32 didn't also regret it? Ocelot II Yesterday #33
I don't SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #34
no reason to think that they don't, either Skittles Yesterday #43
Is there evidence SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #47
I don't see Chuck Schumer on this list - WTF? FakeNoose Yesterday #14
Schumer probably directed things SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #22
SHE LED THE WAY Skittles Yesterday #17
same here. nt orleans Yesterday #20
By less than 5 minutes SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #21
editing Skittles Yesterday #25
You are entitled to your opinion SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #27
aren't they all? Skittles Yesterday #36
Some are more supported by facts than others. EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #40
I never said she was alone, I said she LED THE WAY Skittles Yesterday #41
No its not SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #48
well like you said THAT'S YOUR OPINION Skittles Yesterday #51
No. SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #52
Again by a handful of minutes and it was organized within the party EdmondDantes_ 9 hrs ago #61
I'd rather have Tina Smith, thanks. She's been fantastic. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #5
No and they won't. Autumn Yesterday #6
Who won't what ? Indefinite pronouns. Cant tell what your references refer to. Amaryllis Yesterday #10
+1000 aeromanKC Yesterday #7
The whole conservative establishment in the party has to go LiberalLovinLug Yesterday #15
Hear, hear! ZDU Yesterday #26
Good memory! ABC123Easy Yesterday #16
Why isn't the responsibility on the man who had 8 accusers? EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #23
Why can't believing them and still not wanting him thrown out be an option? Polybius Yesterday #38
I admit I didn't think anyone would say he groped a bunch of women and it's not a fireable offense as an option EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #42
But he didn't do it on the job, it was alleged to have been years ago Polybius Yesterday #44
One of his accusers SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #49
Thanks for reminding us of something that happened 8 years ago. tinrobot Yesterday #35
I'm with you! Faux pas 22 hrs ago #55
KNR and bookmarking for later. niyad 22 hrs ago #57
she got played. pansypoo53219 9 hrs ago #58
Overdoing the sweetie-pie/tough-guy stuff gulliver 9 hrs ago #62
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