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Martin Eden

(15,679 posts)
54. So we go relentless, pulling no punches
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 11:39 PM
16 hrs ago

Call a liar a liar, a criminal a criminal, and a traitor a traitor. Do you honestly think saying fucking liar, fucking criminal, and fucking traitor will strengthen our argument among people who don't already agree with us?

It won't. It will exonerate Trump for his use of the F-bomb, and convince many folks on the fence that we are no better.

It may provide some temporary satisfaction in venting our rage, but it will not help one bit in rallying more people to the cause of fighting fascism.

All it will do is lower the national discourse, which is probably what our enemies want.

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Didn't the NYT actually have the nerve to write some scolding story senseandsensibility 23 hrs ago #1
They are the fucking worst PCIntern 23 hrs ago #2
Officious prick you say? BattleRow 22 hrs ago #12
Fuck them. paleotn 21 hrs ago #21
why not add the word FUCK to the dictionary? CountAllVotes 23 hrs ago #3
Your President thinks so... PCIntern 23 hrs ago #5
He makes me so sick! CountAllVotes 23 hrs ago #9
Oh Jesus Fucking Christ... mr715 23 hrs ago #7
Make that A-O-Fuckin'-K! calimary 21 hrs ago #27
Last I looked "fuck" was in all of the high end dictionaries... Wounded Bear 21 hrs ago #28
I think it's been okay for ages, actually... buzzycrumbhunger 19 hrs ago #47
Can't help but use it for the destruction this maniac is doing to all of us vapor2 17 hrs ago #50
Fuck is in many dictionaries radical noodle 17 hrs ago #52
I play a word game and I find it so annoying that naughty words don't count. travelingthrulife 5 hrs ago #61
Been using that and its variations for years, lol. mwmisses4289 4 hrs ago #64
I Hear You, I Agree With Your Stance, But Alas, It IS In The Dictionary..... ColoringFool 28 min ago #77
;-{).... Goonch 23 hrs ago #4
Dear PCIntern, it's Sunday! usonian 23 hrs ago #6
A variant: SCantiGOP 6 hrs ago #57
I learned from my grandmother. (Slightly off-topic) usonian 5 hrs ago #60
Grammar rules are made to be broken! mwmisses4289 4 hrs ago #65
Absolutely right SCantiGOP 4 hrs ago #66
That's easy for you to say! usonian 3 hrs ago #72
I've said it many times regarding profanity Skittles 23 hrs ago #8
I'm long past finding the "traditional" "swear words" offensive. MLWR 22 hrs ago #15
? Skittles 21 hrs ago #35
This. 1000% paleotn 21 hrs ago #22
It's lost its shock value. Boomerproud 22 hrs ago #10
It does not shock me CountAllVotes 22 hrs ago #11
I so agree. efhmc 22 hrs ago #14
It Works for Trump Because Lowered Standards Give Him More Running Room WizumbODaSage 22 hrs ago #16
I am able to watch MSNBC online CountAllVotes 21 hrs ago #17
Wow! That works great for me on my phone. I haven't tried it on my tablet yet. Thank you so much! liberalla 20 hrs ago #40
I use it all of the time CountAllVotes 19 hrs ago #48
You may find it inappropriate as I'm sure many do but it does not mean she is poorly educated. chowder66 21 hrs ago #18
That is fucking cool. mr715 20 hrs ago #45
lol chowder66 19 hrs ago #49
Oh horse shit. paleotn 21 hrs ago #23
Educated as fuck! mr715 20 hrs ago #46
Utter Nonsense Betty Boom 20 hrs ago #42
The unread can't use profanity to effect. enigmania 3 hrs ago #71
It used to be a strong word. In these times, I find that it is no longer strong enough. Marie Marie 1 hr ago #75
Yes, used too much it is rather boring. mwmisses4289 4 hrs ago #67
Dick Cheney, 2004 vanamonde 22 hrs ago #13
Doesn't matter popsdenver 21 hrs ago #19
Fuckin' Ay Skippy! BidenRocks 21 hrs ago #20
The best insults and swear words aren't in the English/US language . . . Aussie105 21 hrs ago #24
It's a word. Like any other word. paleotn 21 hrs ago #25
Kill the tone argument. Iggo 21 hrs ago #26
Spanish cuss words are the best! EndlessMaze 21 hrs ago #29
I've noticed NPR not being so dreadfully delight for the last few months underpants 21 hrs ago #30
Bring Sen. Mazie Hirono BaronChocula 21 hrs ago #31
You said it, brother. Joinfortmill 21 hrs ago #32
Netanyahu has hurt the USA as well, Bibi is helping TSF to destroy the U.S.. nt Exp 21 hrs ago #33
Finally Blue_Roses 21 hrs ago #34
Obama was castigated for using the phrase "we kicked his ass." Orrex 21 hrs ago #36
Good to know.. TY! Cha 21 hrs ago #37
I grew up on Frank Zappa, the Fuggs , Captain Beefart... BurnDoubt 21 hrs ago #38
I think Trump was justly criticized for dropping the F-bomb Martin Eden 20 hrs ago #39
Yes:when they go low, we go high, right??? PCIntern 20 hrs ago #43
So we go relentless, pulling no punches Martin Eden 16 hrs ago #54
The national discourse cannot be lowered PCIntern 8 hrs ago #55
It would certainly get lower if Democrats act like Trump Martin Eden 6 hrs ago #56
No one is advocating the abrogation of principle. PCIntern 5 hrs ago #58
Profanity from Democratic leaders is being advocated in this thread Martin Eden 5 hrs ago #62
I agree. Be direct, but not fucking direct, dipshit! NoSheep 3 hrs ago #70
I think others curse besides and beypnd Mr trump Torchlight 20 hrs ago #44
If I remember correctly... oldsoldierfadingfast 20 hrs ago #41
There's No "Fuck" in Broccoli!! The Roux Comes First 17 hrs ago #51
Hold my beer... JoseBalow 4 hrs ago #63
Rec'd for the 'Rocky III' reference.... Jack Valentino 16 hrs ago #53
So I have a story for you: PCIntern 4 hrs ago #68
Just remember: Water seeks its own level. phxjurist 5 hrs ago #59
Fuck is a very versatile word. patphil 4 hrs ago #69
Nicely done PCIntern jfz9580m 2 hrs ago #73
Profanity is a linguistic crutch used by unintelligent fucking assholes. Wait a minute.... Gary 50 1 hr ago #74
I hadn''t turned on MSNBC in forever, but wanted to see Budapest celebrate... & I not only heard Alex Wagner say "fuck," deurbano 32 min ago #76
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