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H2O Man

(79,272 posts)
18. Very good.
Mon May 11, 2026, 10:53 PM
May 11

I always respect and appreciate your thinking.

I do my best to be true to my values and beliefs. Part of that is remembering Malcolm X's teaching that instead of listening to what someone says, look what they do. I value that. I believe Malcolm was right. So I would recommend that people look at what any and every politician elected to represent them does. That can include their responses to those who question things such as the war in Iran. It can include learning who they get campaign contributions from. I won't speculate on if you might agree with that, but I thinking that it is public information, and citizens should be well informed.

Now, as for Senator Schumer. I have voted for him in virtually every Senate race he has been in. I recognize that he is highly skilled in campaigning, as he has never lost an election. I anticipate he will not lose a primary if one were to happen, and will vote for him again. I will vote for him, even if some third party candidate who represents my values in areas that Schumer definitely does not. I am a Democrat, since the day I first registered to vote.

At the same time, I won't donate money to his campaign, nor campaign for him. Instead, I will invest my money and energy into the campaigns of those Democrats who represent my values -- and there are many of them. These include those outside of my own congressional district and/or state. Heck, I did speech writing for a congressional candidate in Florida in the past.

I accept that in your mind, speaking the truth about one of those party leaders is wrong. That, in my mind, is the same thinking as the cowardly republicans in the House and Senate who refuse to disagree with the president. And that, in absolutely no way, defines my thinking. It's the exact opposite. I think that my late friend Rubin was 100% correct in his saying that anyone who fails to question "leaders" has betrayed themselves and their country. But, again, I can respect that you think very differently.

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On a Rainy Day [View all] H2O Man May 9 OP
Individually Saoirse9 May 10 #1
A number of things. H2O Man May 10 #6
When was Dick Cheney "ushered on stage" to endorse? What event was that? betsuni May 10 #2
Okay. H2O Man May 10 #7
you obviously don't see the virtue in enabling the election of a white supremacist, criminal madman bigtree May 12 #24
My brains shut down when I try to understand it. betsuni May 13 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni May 13 #43
"It is essential that we have a conversation on this complicated issue" Martin Eden May 10 #3
Very good! H2O Man May 10 #8
One Word Martin Eden May 10 #4
it's a hard conversation to have. mopinko May 10 #5
It has been a long while that I have seen so many of Israel's talking points summarized so well and succinctly. AloeVera May 10 #9
It definitely is hard. H2O Man May 11 #11
i absolutely wish that jews believed in hell, mopinko May 11 #13
Thank you! H2O Man May 11 #15
Good OP malaise May 10 #10
Thank you! H2O Man May 11 #12
interesting bigtree May 11 #14
Interesting. H2O Man May 11 #16
I think you can find numerous statements and actions by Sen. Schumer, if you look, that condem every objectional aspect bigtree May 11 #17
Very good. H2O Man May 11 #18
this is false bigtree May 12 #21
Gracious! H2O Man May 12 #22
that has nothing at all to do with what you claimed is my belief bigtree May 12 #23
Sure it does. H2O Man May 12 #25
well, you go on and tell me what I believe bigtree May 12 #27
Golly. H2O Man May 12 #28
responding to your continued effort to tell me what I believe bigtree May 12 #29
You are funny! H2O Man May 12 #30
you might not find it as funny if I did the same dishonest and demeaning thing bigtree May 12 #31
I think that H2O Man May 12 #32
I think it's sad that you can't find something that actually affects Americans to prioritize in the next election bigtree May 12 #33
Comic genius! H2O Man May 12 #34
like I said bigtree May 12 #35
Ha! H2O Man May 12 #36
lol, sweating 'Robert' bigtree May 13 #37
I have never H2O Man May 13 #38
there you go again, claiming I said things I haven't said or implied bigtree May 13 #39
You are confused. H2O Man May 13 #40
the hubris in representing to me that you know ANYTHING substantive about what I believe bigtree May 13 #44
Catch-22, denialism and a few other things... AloeVera May 11 #19
Americans were divided on that conflict bigtree May 12 #20
The attempts at restraint failed because there was little behind them to make them serious. AloeVera May 13 #41
I think you're assuming levers of influence that didn't exist for Biden bigtree May 13 #45
I am reminded H2O Man May 12 #26
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