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Wiz Imp

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76. It appears there is a good chance This Will Hold is actually Russian state sponsored disinformation
Sat May 16, 2026, 02:19 PM
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However, we all know that Russians have been heavily involved in election interference since at least 2016. The FBI is still looking for several Russian military intelligence agents who have tried to hack election systems, and, more importantly, used social media to sow discord and distrust in the American election process. Investigative journalist Benn Jordan put out a report earlier this year indicating that the system is so pervasive and sophisticated that as many as one in three interactions on social media are actually with bot accounts.

The goal of military disinformation campaigns isn’t to directly sway an elections’ results, but rather make it impossible to trust anything at all that you read online and to make you feel helpless and apathetic to reality. I believe that This Will Hold and the Common Coalition fit the profile of an intelligence operation precisely because they have zero accountability. They promote knowingly fake election theories into the public sphere in order to sow confusion among people who have more reliable information.

This does not mean that everyone in the Common Coalition is a Russian asset, only but that the top of the coalition would be exactly that. At the very least they would be what the FSB calls a “useful idiot.”

At this point, their conspiracy theories are so popular that they drown out more nuanced analysis by Smart Elections and the Election Truth Alliance–both of which are groups that have transparent founders that you can vet directly.

Scott Carney is an investigative reporter and award winning author who has made it clear he is on the side of the people who question the results of the election. But when he calls out a fraudulent organization like "This will hold" because they are very clearly frauds and hurt the case of those crying "election interference", then we continue to see loads of people who "feel it in their bones" that the 2024 election was stolen refuse to accept the reality that the claims of "this will hold" are 100% bullshit.

Scott Carney continues to suppor the "Election Truth Alliance" which I believ is simply another grifting election denialist organization, but at least they are willing to go on record with their real identities and stand behind their claims.

Now some of my viewers will not want to hear what I’m reporting to day, but before you change the channel, I want to be extremely clear with where I stand on the possibility that someone did interfere with the 2024 election. I still think that it is absolutely possible. Trump and Elon Musk have both made multiple statements that they meddled in the election software. They’ve been telegraphing their disdain for honest elections for a decade. There are also statistical anomalies outlined by both SMART Elections and Election Truth Alliance (who have both appeared on this channel) that I still find convincing. But getting the facts right is important. This is a topic that is so centrally to the future of the country and the world that we have no other choice.

At this point, their conspiracy theories are so popular that they drown out more nuanced analysis by Smart Elections and the Election Truth Alliance–both of which are groups that have transparent founders that you can vet directly.

They’re successful because what they have to say is more extreme than everyone else. It’s a story as old as social media and algorithmic recommendations.

The last thing that I want to say before I go is that it’s sort of embarrassing to admit that I made a mistake in such a public format. I want to get things right the first time and every time before I put out a report. But unfortunately the reality is that EVERYONE makes errors from time to time. It’s an unavoidable part of the job.

If only the people here were as honest with themselves as Scott Carney....

"About "This Will Hold". They are legit,"


You know this how? Because they say so?


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They claimed:
Ex‑CIA whistleblower Adam Zarnowski alleges that in December 2024 the NSA secretly audited the friggin’ election and found Harris won by a landslide, but then buried it.

Reality:
There is no public or credible leak, no documents, no whistleblower chain of custody. NSA does cyber intel—not vote counting. No other sources back up this epic claim.


That sounds like the complete opposite of a "legit" organization.

Can anyone name one piece of real evidence they have presented that the election of "stolen"? I've not seen it yet.

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Where are Merrick Garland and Lisa Monaco Today? gab13by13 Yesterday #2
Garland delayed in prosecuting Trump after GOP tried to delay his nomination for a huge loss of time. GreenWave Yesterday #4
Money, Power, Fascism -- The Octopus Kid Berwyn Yesterday #3
and the Supreme Court who not only enabled Trump back into office bigtree Yesterday #7
Garland did not stop the traitor nor his conspiracy. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #20
charges were brought some 17 months before the election bigtree Yesterday #22
In truth, it goes back to Dealey Plaza on 22 November 1963. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #24
The Berwyn Book Encyclopedia yellow dahlia 20 hrs ago #64
Garland fell short for whatever reason and on that basis given the ramifications, was a colossal failure. Defending him KPN Yesterday #29
no, the courts fell short, then the American people followed bigtree Yesterday #36
Thanks for all the good information. Minds may not be changed, but facts will be out there. Joinfortmill 11 hrs ago #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill Yesterday #40
Agreed. The moment he knew of stolen state secrets he should arrested him... returnee Yesterday #49
the courts failed us bigtree Yesterday #50
As I understand it... returnee 13 hrs ago #66
counterpunch was basically a Russian tool during the 2016 election bigtree Yesterday #12
CounterPunch sucks most when they publish an article I don't agree with. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #21
Alisa Valdes-Rodriguez is doing her courageous part with the Epstein horrors on her substack. Bumbles Yesterday #5
If Merrick Garland is really "one of them" then why wasn't he approved for SCOTUS? FakeNoose Yesterday #6
As Is Your Prerogative. But Don't Think You KNOW Garland...... ColoringFool Yesterday #9
most people who pretend he's some double agent don't know anything about the actual prosecution bigtree Yesterday #11
What became of those prosecutions? CivicGrief Yesterday #30
instead of just being trifled with this bigtree Yesterday #35
Ha! Future prosecutions. CivicGrief Yesterday #41
what's sad is the literal surrender from people claiming to be so concerned with prosecuting Trump bigtree Yesterday #47
If Jack Smith ever comes forward and says that Merrick Garland is actually "corrupt" and "in with them" FakeNoose Yesterday #53
Garland hate guarantees clicks MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #33
Republicans prevented Garland Mad_Machine76 20 hrs ago #62
That's because Garland is not (and never was) one of them FakeNoose 4 hrs ago #74
I HAVE SAID MOST OF THIS, EVEN BCCI. AND THEN THE "WOOO! TINHAT!" COMMENTS...... ColoringFool Yesterday #8
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Yesterday #10
To people like Thiel, Musk, and their employees manipulating the data to get their and the Powers That Be .. Botany Yesterday #13
Don't forget the bomb threats karin_sj Yesterday #52
I've been saying the same thing for years. Irish_Dem Yesterday #18
May I suggest lonely bird Yesterday #14
So glad that he prioritized avoiding the appearance of a political agenda Orrex Yesterday #15
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m 12 hrs ago #67
The Garland Society folks don't like this one bit. BannonsLiver Yesterday #16
Garland society folks are pro prosecution of Trump bigtree Yesterday #17
Bahahaha BannonsLiver Yesterday #25
no doubt the Anti-Trump Prosecution society exists bigtree Yesterday #37
Epstein class oligarchs irisblue Yesterday #19
😬 Floyd R. Turbo Yesterday #23
Bookmarking for later reading. Epstein-town? CoopersDad Yesterday #26
Maybe that's why it always seems like 1 step forward 2 steps back bucolic_frolic Yesterday #27
Well, one thing cannot be denied, Garland was an Obama SCOTUS choice. Joinfortmill Yesterday #28
True. My understanding was he selected Garland as someone the R Senate would surely approve -- part of his "team of KPN Yesterday #31
Great post/thread Botany, even if in small or even large part it is theory. Theory is what leads to finding facts and KPN Yesterday #32
All I know is, Trump never talks about Garland nor does he seek revenge against him thebigidea Yesterday #34
you have to be kidding bigtree Yesterday #38
I see you graduated to Trump Truth Social posts CivicGrief Yesterday #42
this is specious bigtree Yesterday #45
It's a false claim to imply Trump is going after Garland in the courts like he is everyone else thebigidea 21 hrs ago #57
not yet bigtree 21 hrs ago #59
It's possible that Donald is AFRAID of Garland, with good reason I might add. Joinfortmill 11 hrs ago #70
Is "Thiswillhold" the QAnon of the left? chowder66 Yesterday #39
It is BlueAnon. It pushes CT crackpottery that repeatededly has been debunked, yet it persists. Celerity Yesterday #43
Yes. mr715 22 hrs ago #56
I love history. I love mysteries. I love taking things... littlemissmartypants Yesterday #44
Knowledge is good Botany Yesterday #46
This thing, I call it the evil of psychopaths, has existed for all time. ... littlemissmartypants Yesterday #48
by the way, the substack is conspiratorial claptrap bigtree Yesterday #51
It appears there is a good chance This Will Hold is actually Russian state sponsored disinformation Wiz Imp 4 hrs ago #76
It is difficult to have useful discussions of this type of material, because... TygrBright 23 hrs ago #54
You mean we should be a.... reACTIONary 19 hrs ago #65
Untangling the Octopus Kid Berwyn 23 hrs ago #55
who is this new poster, and what expertise does he have for making these claims bigtree 21 hrs ago #60
To help explain how Epstein was protected since Reagan. Kid Berwyn 10 hrs ago #73
It's disgusting to see this kooky CT nonsense rise to the top of the Greatest Page Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #58
Every bit of it is sourced and footnoted. Hardly kooky conspiracy theory. Botany 10 hrs ago #71
Thanks for sharing, Botany! That was an important read. It was jam packed. yellow dahlia 20 hrs ago #61
This is why I have become a misanthrope. BigmanPigman 20 hrs ago #63
Garland was blueknight73 11 hrs ago #69
a tragic mistake themaguffin 4 hrs ago #75
Well, there's this. It seems that Merrick Garland was NOT popular with the Federalist Society Joinfortmill 10 hrs ago #72
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