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nmmi

(248 posts)
4. Israel annexed the Golan Heights in 1981. So it's been a done deal for 43 years in many/most Israeli minds
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 04:30 PM
Dec 15

and certainly in Bibi's mind.

Neither the UN nor the international community has recognized that annexation. As for the U.S. ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Heights

On 25 March 2019, then-President of the United States Donald Trump proclaimed U.S. recognition of the Golan Heights as a part of the State of Israel, making it the first country to do so.[232][233] Israeli officials lobbied the United States into recognizing "Israeli sovereignty" over the territory.[234] The 28 member states of the European Union declared in turn that they do not recognize Israeli sovereignty, and several experts on international law reiterated that the principle remains that land gained by either defensive or offensive wars cannot be legally annexed under international law.[235][236][237] The European members of the UN Security Council issued a joint statement condemning the US announcement and the UN Secretary-General issued a statement saying that the status of the Golan had not changed.[238]

Under the subsequent administration of President Joe Biden, the US State Department's annual report on human rights violations around the world once more refers to the West Bank, Gaza Strip, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights as being territories occupied by Israel.[239] In June 2021, the Biden administration affirmed that it will continue to maintain the previous administration's policy of recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights.[240]
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[240] Lazaroff, Tova (26 June 2021). "US: No change to policy recognizing Israeli sovereignty on Golan". The Jerusalem Post. Retrieved 28 June 2021. ( https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/us-no-change-to-policy-recognizing-israeli-sovereignty-on-golan-672052 )
Emphasis added by nmmi

The essense of the Jerusalem Post article:
The United States rejected as “false” a claim by the Washington Free Beacon that it had “walked back” its recognition of Israeli sovereignty on the Golan Heights.

“US policy regarding the Golan has not changed, and reports to the contrary are false,” the State Department tweeted under its Near Eastern Affairs account on Friday.

It spoke up less than 24 hours after the Beacon published its report, which claimed that the US was rescinding the Golan sovereignty recognition granted Israel in 2018 under the Trump administration.


And now Israel is occupying the buffer zone - a small (about the size of the Gaza strip) formerly demilitarized strip (that was patrolled by the U.N.) between Israeli-occupied/annexed Golan Heights and Syria. Supposedly temporarily but I'm not buying that anymore.

And Mount Hermon, the highest point in the region. They aren't going to give that up either.

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3 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

kick Eko Dec 15 #1
Authoritarians, give them an inch they'll take a country n/t Cheezoholic Dec 15 #2
Hell, why stop there? no_hypocrisy Dec 15 #3
Excellent idea! Richard D Dec 15 #5
There is nothing Israel does that you won't defend iemanja Dec 15 #10
On 25 March 2019, the U.S. formally recognized Israel's annexation of the Golan Heights. speak easy Dec 15 #13
So, a kind of Westward Expansion for the Middle East Astraea Dec 15 #18
Why is annexing other countries frowned upon these unless it's Israel? Polybius Dec 15 #19
Pay up Sucker uncledad Dec 16 #24
Probably already in the works Bettie Dec 15 #16
he's not going to stop there. nt Javaman Dec 15 #20
Israel annexed the Golan Heights in 1981. So it's been a done deal for 43 years in many/most Israeli minds nmmi Dec 15 #4
Kinda interesting... Richard D Dec 15 #6
Only about 20% of the Druze residents have Israeli citizenship muriel_volestrangler Dec 15 #7
The six villages Richard D Dec 15 #8
You can read about it here. . Richard D Dec 15 #9
"An unverified video...purports to show a member of the Druze community...calling for the community to be annexed" muriel_volestrangler Dec 15 #12
Well, sorry for the kneejerk accusation . . . Richard D Dec 15 #14
Israel is on the side of good. That's a rather laughable claim rpannier Dec 15 #17
Here's a map of the Golan Heights and the buffer zone nmmi Dec 15 #11
No doubt this is all Hamas' fault, and they can end it any time they want. Orrex Dec 15 #15
Some people! Aussie105 Dec 15 #22
Right? And for the record... Orrex Dec 16 #27
there is a word for this.... keroro gunsou Dec 15 #21
No idea, it all looks like the bottom of the ocean that rose out of the water ages ago. Aussie105 Dec 16 #23
What's so important about it for Israel is it is very high ground it looks over Israel EX500rider Dec 16 #26
Which Syria regularly did until Israel occupied the Golan. maxsolomon Dec 16 #29
Ski resorts and vineyards. Swede Dec 16 #30
Of course they do. /nt artemisia1 Dec 16 #25
Land Grab uncledad Dec 16 #28
To the victors the spoils. Swede Dec 16 #31
Might doesn't make right Avalon Sparks Dec 16 #32
Israel has become what they feared most in the past. Aussie105 Dec 16 #33
Muslims conquered the Middle east, North Africa, Spain, and into Asia. Swede Dec 16 #35
Let's not mention land grabs closer to home and much larger . . . Aussie105 Dec 17 #37
Yes let's not mention them Avalon Sparks Dec 19 #38
What? Avalon Sparks Dec 19 #39
Read some history. Swede Dec 19 #41
Got it Avalon Sparks Dec 19 #43
Oh, never mind. I just read you think Hamas and Hezbollah are resistance fighters. Swede Dec 19 #42
Colonial? Jews have lived in the Middle East as long as Arabs, and other groups have... Israel has a right to exist BUT electric_blue68 Dec 16 #36
Thank you for the thoughtful reply Avalon Sparks Dec 19 #40
That's how we got WW1 and WW2. Crunchy Frog Dec 16 #34
History contains little beyond a list of people who have accommodated themselves with other people's property. Voltaire Ping Tung Dec 19 #44
Good, should have happened 43 years ago. Tarc Dec 19 #45
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